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By: latermeok
1/01/2008
10:37 am

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You can all solve the problem by not drinking water anymore.

By: chuckanoo
5/01/2008
10:21 pm

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In the latest "Uncensored" magazine (Issue 10: January - March 2008), is 2 articles on Fluoride. One is titled "The Enormous effects of Fluoride in your Drugs & Water" (page 14) which places a link between fluoridated water and drugs that have fluoride in them, with the majority of school shootings in the U.S.A. The second one titled "Fluoride as a mind control agent" (page 15) is also linked to Hitler and his regime of mass control of the populace via water medication (fluoride) that would also reduce the fertility rates in women.
I urge those who wants to find out more, to read this magazine if you get a chance. We need to stop this treason to our state!

By: latermeok
6/01/2008
11:49 am

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Please ..... Someone help this person...............

By: uglybassman1
6/01/2008
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I'm sorry....this person is beyond help!

By: chuckanoo
8/01/2008
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OPEN LETTER ( #1 ) TO THE PREMIER AND MEMBERS OF THE QUEENSLAND
PARLIAMENT, THE QUEENSLAND PUBLIC AND MEDIA

Lies, damn lies and misleading water fluoridation statistics.


Dear Premier

On Dec 5th 2007 you announced you had made the decision to mandate water
fluoridation in Queensland. At that time, you made claims that Queensland
children had "the worst teeth in Australia" and that children from
fluoridated "Townsville had up to 65% less decay than children from Brisbane".

Premier, it appears that you have been wrongly, or, misleadingly advised.

The 65% less decay in Townsville that you claim is data from 1991 and the
65% less decay in Townsville relates to a tiny 0.2 of a single tooth surface average less.
Your claim is misleading and cannot be justified when all of the last 3 Queensland Children's
surveys published (data for years 2000, 2001 and 2002) clearly show that Townsville children
have more decay in their permanent teeth than children from North Brisbane, the Gold Coast and
several other Qld Health Districts that do not have water fluoridation.
At best, Townsville is in the middle, it is not better or significantly worse than any other area in Queensland.


If Fluoride ingested in water made a real difference to decay, the longer it was consumed, the more difference there would be.

After drinking fluoridated water for 12 years, Townsville children have more decay, or the same amount of decay, as children who have not consumed fluoridated water; obviously then ingesting Fluoride isn't justified.

The latest National Children's Dental survey (2002 data) was just released on 17th Dec 2007.
This survey shows that with less than 5% of the population drinking fluoridated water, children from Queensland have slightly less decay in their baby teeth than children from the Northern Territory which has 70 % of its population drinking fluoridated water.

By: chuckanoo
8/01/2008
5:43 pm

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This new survey also shows Queensland children have less decay in their permanent teeth than children from the ACT ( 100 % fluoridated ) and they have an average of only a twentieth of a tooth more decay than children from Tasmania ( 83% fluoridated ) .
Qld children and adults do not need or want fluoride in their water!

Premier, forced mass medication can NEVER be justified. To try and justify it on the misleading claims put forward by your advisors is extremely unethical.

There will be a rally to protest forced mass medication by fluoride chemicals in our water.

Dear Premier,you are invited to address the rally at 9am, Tuesday 12 th February outside Parliament House,George St.

Yours faithfully, Merilyn Haines spokesperson for Queenslanders Against Water Fluoridation Inc ( QAWF Inc )
media contacts 0418777112 info@qawf. www.qawf.org

By: farout07
10/01/2008
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I say finally! Queenslanders have the worst teeth. That is a fact. Putting fluride in the water will improve the teeth of Queenslanders and all the whingers? Get over it. Try to find somewhere that don't have flurodated water and move there. Why should the whole state suffer with bad teeth because of a handful of sooks who hate the idea. I hate the idea of recycled water but guess what? Doesn't matter. We'll still have it flowinginto our homes.

By: casino43r
10/01/2008
8:39 pm

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I say finally! Queenslanders have the worst teeth. That is a fact.
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would you like to give a link to this claim farout!!!!!!

i have lived in qld all my life so far and half of that was on tank water and my teeth and my kids teeth are very good my 13 year old has no fillings and my wife comes from vic and only been here for 15 years and her teeth are very good but she had filling down in vic when she was young!!!!!

so please give me the proof that fluoride is good to drink and gives you good teeth as my family all brush their teethes with flouride tooth paste was why have it in our water!!!!!!

By: farout07
10/01/2008
8:50 pm

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Actually I read it in an article that was plastered on the wall of the school dental practice. If you want a link, here then. Read away.
http://www.fluoridationqld.com/

http://www.cabinet.qld.gov.au/MMS/StatementDisplay Single.aspx?id=55507

http://www.adaq.com.au/

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/ql d-to-have-fluoride-in-water/2007/12/05/11968127876 72.html

There's plenty more. Satisfied?

By: casino43r
10/01/2008
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no worries farout but i still say no to flouride but if you are happy drinking it go for it!!!!!

By: tonegunman1
11/01/2008
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If you actually read the data from the official dental surveys you will see that Queenslanders do not have the worst teeth. Far from it.
Some of the worst teeth in NSW are owned by those in the western suburbs of Sydney - fluoridated for decades.
The state with the greatest rate of people that have no teeth at all is Tasmania - fluoridated first of the states.
The Northern territory has by far the worst rates of decay and is about 70% fluoridated.

By: pathogan70
11/01/2008
7:46 pm

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Well theres a campaign on saying there's no credible evidence to support fluoride being bad in drinking water.
This is completely underhand and unfair to rule out evidence that lacks credibility because it immediately halts one perspective on the issue.
My favourite fluoride conspiracy theory is that its a waste product from the aluminium industry and makes people more open to political persuasion...

By: chuckanoo
13/01/2008
10:02 pm

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OPEN LETTER ( #3) TO THE PREMIER AND MEMBERS OF THE QUEENSLAND PARLIAMENT, COUNCILS, PUBLIC AND MEDIA
Dear Premier Anna Bligh

The Qld Health document as shown here is criminally misleading. The appalling tooth decay as shown, would not result from drinking water without fluoride.

We therefore call for the immediate dismissal of the Chief Health Officer Dr Jeannette Young, who must take responsibility for this duplicity.

In the latest National Children's Dental Survey (pub 17 Dec 2007) the " National Summary " on page 25 shows 75.1 % of Queensland Children aged 5 years to 12 years, have no decay at all in their permanent teeth ( DMFT = 0 ). The Australian average is 76.9% and it ranges from 72.9% of children in the ACT, having no decay, to 79.7% in South Australia having no decay in their permanent teeth. Queensland figures are right in the middle and are very good for most children.

Here is a link to where that publication can be found. http://www.arcpoh.adelaide.edu.au/publications/rep ort/statistics/html_files/cdhs2002.html

To make it plain Premier, three quarters of Queensland children ( aged from 5 to 12 yrs ) are recently and publicly documented as having NO DECAY in their permanent teeth.

The Qld Health picture "teeth without exposure to fluoridated water " is almost certainly an example of " Baby Bottle Tooth Decay " ( BBT ) which occurs when young children are left sucking on bottles of liquids containing sugars and it occurs in all other Australian states which are heavily artificially fluoridated .
It is NOT a result of having an un-fluoridated water supply as is in most of Queensland. Fluoridation cannot, prevent " Baby Bottle tooth decay "

In 2006, more than one thousand children in Adelaide had anaesthetics to remove rotten teeth ( Stateline South Australian 20/7/2007) SA has only 8% of Australia's total population but 90% of the residents of South Australia have a fluoridated water supply ( NHMRC 2007 ). ...

By: chuckanoo
13/01/2008
10:02 pm

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Dear Premier it is no wonder the Health Dept is in such a mess when untruthful, unethical, misleading publications like this, are allowed to be put out by senior Queensland Health public servants.

Premier, we call for you to dismiss the Chief Health Officer and to refer this matter to the Crime and Misconduct Commission.

Premier, we invite you to address the " Rally Against Forced Fluoridation " commencing 9am Tuesday 12 th Feb, Parliament House, George St

Authorised by M Haines on behalf of Queenslanders Against Water Fluoridation Inc contacts info@qawf.org mob 0418 777112

By: iloveglenwood
14/01/2008
3:04 pm

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When brushing your teeth only wash your mouth out once this does help your childrens teeth as well as grownups I was bought up in Vic now live in lovely Qld for 25years I'm with you guuys my teeth are stuffed as for my kids only a small handfull of fillings and lovely and white

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14/01/2008
4:03 pm

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By: fairytisya
14/01/2008
8:55 pm

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and every tooth paste on the market has flouride..... What does that tell us ppl!!

By: tonegunman1
15/01/2008
7:49 am

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fairyisya

Every toothpaste does not have fluoride. There are a number of non fluoride toothpastes available.
So there is choice.

By: chuckanoo
18/01/2008
5:45 pm

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OPEN LETTER ( # 4) TO THE PREMIER AND MEMBERS OF THE QUEENSLAND PARLIAMENT, COUNCILS, PUBLIC AND MEDIA
Dear Premier

On the 5th December 2007 the Health Minister, Mr Stephen Robertson said on ABC Radio that people who did not want Fluoride, could install " equipment " in their home.
Presumably by this he meant expensive Reverse Osmosis filtration units. The only problem with that Premier, is that many people cannot afford to buy and maintain Reverse Osmosis units or buy large water tanks or buy bottled water for the rest of their life.

Even if they could afford water tanks, many people live in flats, units or retirement homes where there might not the space for a tank, or, they may not be allowed to install a tank.
These people, through no fault of their own, will be trapped, into having to consume and also bathe in fluoridated water. Fluoride can be absorbed through the skin, being a much smaller molecule than Nicotine or Estrogen as used in skin patches. The very young and the very old with fragile skin are more vulnerable to external exposure to fluoridated water.

Bob and Eleanor, aged pensioners who have been married for almost fifty years, are very opposed to forced water fluoridation, but they are in poor health and financial circumstances. They have recently donated $5 to help fight forced fluoridation. They would liked to have been able to donate more to the "Forced Fluoridation Fighting Fund", but cannot afford more.

They have also written to Dr Jeannette Young, Chief Health Officer of Qld and with their kind permission, we are now forwarding their letter to all Qld MPs.

By: chuckanoo
18/01/2008
5:46 pm

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Dear Dr Jeannette Young
Queensland Chief Health Officer

My wife and I are totally opposed to having forced fluoridation of our water supply.
Toowoomba voted overwhelmingly against drinking recycled sewerage and now we are supposed to drink fluoride?
Why can't we vote on fluoridation of our water supply instead of it being forced on us?
We are supposed to be the "smart" state. The smarter countries have stopped fluoridating their water! There are numerous international scientific studies linking fluoride/fluoridation with serious health conditions such as hip fractures, cancer, osteoporosis, thyroid dysfunction, neurological impairment and irritable bowel syndrome.
I already have bladder cancer and after 32 radiation treatments I also got irritable bowel syndrome.
Why should I be forced to overload my body with yet more poison?
It is imperative that this proposal / implementation of adding fluoride to Queensland's water supply be stopped immediately! Fluoridation is an infringement of our Human Rights!

Bob and Eleanor Elias from Toowoomba (contact details available on request )

Dear Premier, please have a heart, how can you do this to people like Bob and Eleanor who do not want to have fluoridation forced upon them and who will have little chance to avoid artificially fluoridated water and the impacts it will have on their health.
Premier, you made the decision to fluoridate Qld and it is believed that you will force all Labor MPs to vote for forced fluoridation to get the new Bill through Parliament.
Thus Premier it will be one person, yourself Anna Bligh, who will be responsible for mass medicating 4 million Queenslanders.
Many of the 4 million Queenslanders you want to medicate will be like Bob and Eleanor, they will be trapped with few options.
Premier, we invite you to address the " Rally Against Forced Fluoridation " at 9am Tuesday 12 th Feb, Parliament House, George St
Authorised by M Haines on behalf of Queenslanders Against Wa ...

By: chuckanoo
18/01/2008
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Authorised by M Haines on behalf of Queenslanders Against Water Fluoridation
Inc contact info@qawf.org mob 0418 777112 www.qawf.org
Fluoridation, it's not science, it's just marketing.
(chopped the end off didn't I?)

By: watermagicinternational
18/01/2008
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Just like DDT and ASBESTOS, we were told that they were completely safe and harmless. NOW look at the liability of Hardie!
I believe that ANNA should be personally liable for all future DAMAGES...

By: leonardgowgow
22/01/2008
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hello,I have lived in qld ,Douglas shire for 24 Years ,have rarely needed the services of a dentist living in qld the same could not be said when in NSW.Have three children ,after asking my children possibly 4,000 times have you brushed your teeth? THE RESULTS HAVE BEEN EXCELLENT .ONE FILLING IN A BABY TOOTH.
We have a contract business that requires outdoor work in the tropical heat ,where water consumption in hot humid weather would average 4 ltrs a day .Apart from the chemical issues associated with injesting large qtys of flouride,what about the pleasure on a really hot day ,under a shady tree ,drinking a chilled glass of water, Idont think it will be the same with the smell of flouride.
Our shire at the present has the nicest water filtered without chemicals .I have worked in townsville and was unable to drink the water as was the rest of the team so opted to buy bottled water incurring a cost of approx 1000 dollars over 5 weeks.

By: dankotler
22/01/2008
9:26 am

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if the gov really cared about your teeth they would have gone to the source of most cases...coca cola products is the most advertised and consumed poison. here is some other uses of fluoride: rat poison, pesticides, antidepressant drugs like Prozac- main ingredient is sodium fluoride. you cannot possibly compare recycling water and mass medicating people with a chemical that was found to cause cancer, lower IQ, dental fluorosys, sterility in women etc etc etc

By: dankotler
23/01/2008
8:18 am

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guys, you have to see this 4min video about fluoride in the water. http://youtube.com/watch?v=TVcyWnSgHFI just copy and paste the link. all the best :)
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