By: rajeshnihardwick
6/12/2007
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| Fluoride is the most electro-negative known element. This means that it attracts and binds more than other elements. This might be ok if the form of fluoride in the water supply was not sodium. Being sodium fluoride, and having so many old QLD houses that are earthed through copper pipes, this means that it can form copper fluoride, which is highly toxic, carcinogenic and exacerbates most known diseases. Wake up people - we don't need this type of health assault. |
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By: caesarooney
6/12/2007
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I have made my point very clear I don't want it. I have lived in QLD all my life. My teeth are fine so why should I drink it. We get enough toxins as it is... do we have to indroduce another delibrately.
It seems I don't get a choice. Did I miss the referendum?? |
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By: watermagicinternational
6/12/2007
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Do the children that have BAD teeth drink water or softdrink?????
Adding flouride to water will be a waste of money!!! Add it to softdrink and get to the ROOT of the problem...... |
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By: tonegunman1
7/12/2007
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meepmoopling
Sydney, Perth and Melbourne, all fluoriudated for many years, have all in the last couple of years had front page stories on the fact that they have a dental crisis.
Fluoride is also added in the form of industrial waste that is under international law illegal to be dumped at sea but apparently ok to drink. It also contains lead, cadmium, chromium, mercury, a**nic(As), etc.
I'm sure many dollars were saved in the past by providing cheap asbestos sheeting as building material.
Some brilliant foresight there when it was known at least from the early 1900's how dangerous it was.
Anna Bligh is just another in a series of dictators (Lib and Lab)who rigg and rort the system and claim legitimacy on that basis.
She's just another hitler with a hairdo and a skirt. |
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By: trvbridges
7/12/2007
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tonegunman 1,
could not agree more with everything you said maybe in fifty years when we find out that it gives you all kinds of cancer the b i t c h will be dead so it won't worry her. i say shoot them all lets have someone who came from the bottom who knows a bit about average Australia not silver spoon fed fools that have no clue.it could be a very bad thing for our kids but we need to revolt have a revolution i say we need it maybe if a few of them got popped off on thier way to work they may start to pull their head in and listen to the people,not just think they know what the people want cause they went to uni.do they realise what they are doing to this country |
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By: meepmoopling
7/12/2007
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Treating all your points of argument in order:
Fluoridation of the water supply by itself does not stop tooth decay. It is merely a contributing factoring in reducing it. There are numerous other factors (diet, etc) that contribute and may explain why these other cities still have a "dental crisis."
Next point. I did not understand what you are getting at here. Chlorine is added to our current water supply too which, in specific concentrations, is toxic too. Fluoride is added in such a small concentration that it is unlikely to cause a problem and definetly not in the concentration of this toxic waste you speak of.
Bringing me to your next point. Unlike the asbestos incident you talk of, fluoridation of water have been around for at least 50 years in parts of Canada, Japan and Scandinavia. There has not been documented increases in the associated health concerns people think come with fluoridation. Maybe these problems take 70 years to come out though, who knows.
Your reaction to fluoridation seems to be based on emotions - the "they can't tell me what to do" mentality, without much research into the facts surrounding the matter. Although I am starting to wonder why Beattie didn't go to the last election promising council amalgations and fluoridating the water supply. |
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By: chuckanoo
7/12/2007
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It seems those who want this known toxic poison in their water supply (http://ull.chemistry.uak ron.edu/erd/chemicals/700 1 /7055.html), do not know how to use the Internet. For if they did, they would see the proof that is a big lie. If it was so good, how come after 40 years, the Swiss Canton of Basil Stadt has stopped putting it in their water supply? Reason (shortened for here) After studying it for 40 Years, the had found NO decrease in tooth decay.
How come since 1990 over 150 towns and County's in America have dropped Fluoridation? Why have over half of Europe stopped using it? How come Over 5,900 Health professionals in America(mainly dentists) have singed an Online Petition to stop fluoridation(http://fluor idealert.org/)
Why? because it doesn't work.
It is time we wrote to our local MP's and told them to stop this Illegal dumping of Toxic waste in our water supply. |
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By: kpdlob
7/12/2007
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| If you want to learn just how dangerous Flouride is and the long term effects of it's use visit Dr Mercola.com. The latest finding are truly frightening, especially for our children. |
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By: chuckanoo
7/12/2007
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Water fluoridation’s benefits to teeth have been exaggerated. Even proponents of water fluoridation admit that it is not as effective as it was once claimed to be. While proponents still believe in its effectiveness, a growing number of studies strongly question this assessment. (24-46) According to a systematic review published by the Ontario Ministry of Health and Long Term Care, "The magnitude of [fluoridation's] effect is not large in absolute terms, is often not statistically significant and may not be of clinical significance." (36)
a) No difference exists in tooth decay between fluoridated & unfluoridated countries. While water fluoridation is often credited with causing the reduction in tooth decay that has occurred in the US over the past 50 years, the same reductions in tooth decay have occurred in all western countries, most of which have never added fluoride to their water. The vast majority of western Europe has rejected water fluoridation. Yet, according to comprehensive data from the World Health Organization, their tooth decay rates are just as low, and, in fact, often lower than the tooth decay rates in the US. (25, 35, 44)
b) Cavities do not increase when fluoridation stops. In contrast to earlier findings, five studies published since 2000 have reported no increase in tooth decay in communities which have ended fluoridation. (37-41)
copied from http://fluoridealert.org/fluoride-facts.htm |
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By: caesarooney
7/12/2007
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Like I said... I think I must have missed the referendum?
Can someone tell me... my teeth are fine. Now I drink about 3-4 litres of water a day, more than the average person. So what is all this water with added flouride I don't need in it doing to my health?
Surely I should have a bloody choice if I want another toxin in my system. Bottled water it is. No wonder why cancer rates are epidemic. |
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By: tiarali22
7/12/2007
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Why bother with a referendum? Toowoomba was given a referendum on the introduction of recycled sewage to their water. They said 'no', the Premier said 'who cares, we'll force it on you anyway'.
Queensland isn't a democracy any more.
I just think it's sad when we have little enough water as it is that they're just poisoning the water that we do have. And all for that lie that it will decrease tooth decay.
I guess dental costs are higher than the cost of the cancer wards. At least with the cancer wards they just have to slap you on a long enough waiting list, the 'problem' will soon go away of it's own accord... |
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By: tonegunman1
9/12/2007
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meepmoopling
Going through your points.
You say that there are other factors contributing to dental crisis and that fluoride itself will not stop tooth decay.
True but when it comes to any reducion in dental caries it is allways attributed to fluoride even though there are here also there are certain to be more factors. Decay rates worldwide were in decline before fluoridation or the introduction of fluoridated toothpaste.
If as you say it is added in such small concentrations that it is unlikely to cause problems but at the same time expect it to systemically, not topically cause the enamel to be altered. Fluorine effects are culmulative and aggretate over a lifetime.
One of the other halogens is iodine which fluorine knocks out and replaces. It is no coincidence that regions that have fluorine in high concentration populations also show signs of clinical deficiency of iodine - goiter, cretinism, lowered IQ, etc. Plkaces such as Sydney are now being touted as iodine deficient - highly unusual for seaboards. There is now a push for more iodine to be added to diets.
Chlorine and fluorine are in the halogen group of elements and are highly reactive.
Where chlorine is added to kill bugs in the water. Fluorine is added to bring about the medication of the end user. This at a dosage the same for all users no matter how much you drink, your age or health status.
While if you let the water stand in the open air the chlorine will dissapate this is not so with fluorine.
It is also added to benefit the end user but also comes with lead, cadmium, etc.
Must run but will continue this tomorrow. |
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By: kateloves_cats
9/12/2007
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Have you ever seen a 5 year old kid with a mouth full of black rotton teeth?
I have, I say bring on the fluoride.
Alternately, they could offer dental checks in schools and report the shockers to DoCS, not taking care of your kids teeth must be a form of child abuse/neglect. |
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By: caesarooney
9/12/2007
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Have you ever seen a 5 year old kid with a mouth full of black rotton teeth?
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Kate, I have also seen a 5 year old without rotton teeth. Comes back to the parents, not the water they drink. I don't want my water poisioned. My and my sons teeth are fine thank you very much. |
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By: kateloves_cats
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| I know that caesa, but these parents are not going to get off their backsides and do something about it...someone said earlier that it should be added to softdrink, thats a good idea |
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By: kpdlob
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Unfortunately it goes way further than just ingested flouride through our drinking water. When we shower the flouride will be taken up through the skin and even worse, if it's a hot shower, the flouride vaporises and concentrates up to five times in the steam which is then breathed in and goes into our bloodstream via the lungs...So everytime we take a shower or bath with flouridated water, we get a mega dose of this dangerous toxin.
Flouride by the way, accumulates in the body and according to one of the latest studies, causes our bones to grow, but not in a good way, they grow in a honeycomb kind of way and become brittle leading to fractures in the elderley and malformed skeletons in the young. |
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If you can't give an educated reply then best not say anything at all. |
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By: aussie_jao03
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| Anna Bligh is probably Queensland's worst ever premier. She won't care less till all people in Queensland are dead till she does something about the state's health problems. She's a callous cow and might I add, a Labor callous cow. |
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By: caesarooney
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hey no need for unfounded personal attacks. Sweeping statements are fine. Carry on
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Are you kidding. It was not a personal attack why on earth would you have it deleted. You attacked everyone with an opinion different to yours. I am simply saying that if you cant make an educated comment with some fact or something else to back it up then don't say anything at all.
You are strange. By the way... your profile says you are from WA. Get a life, what concern is this message board of yours really anyway. Surely you have your own issues. |
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