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By: macsbiker73@y7mail.com
27/05/2008
12:29 pm

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Yet again someone has to use that word to get your attention! Now i have it lets get to business. We have the right to drive on the road, walk into a shop, school or sporting feild even a bar. BUT you cant smoke. Why? You can drink drive and kill as long as you dont get caught. Yell abuse from the side lines damaging young minds. Even drink at home but you cant smoke. Let the government take away the right to have a diner party or take aways to stop obrsity. Then it might make it fair. But the poor smoker cops it from everyone who doesn't smoke. If you change smoker for a Race, Sex, or Religion it's DISCRIMINATION. Why is not with a smoker. The Minority are getting to rule over the Majority like a DICTATORSHIP. Fair go Australian government are being puppeted by the dogooders again.

By: alison_star_2002
27/05/2008
3:14 pm

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i agree, its the same here in canada. im moveing to queensland in about a month. so u cant smoke any were in queensland? not even in ur home or did i miss read?

By: lindatheundercoveragent
27/05/2008
3:20 pm

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I dont smoke never have but i dont mind people who do. The only time i did mind was when i was 7 or 8 months pregnant waiting at the bus stop where a woman was smoking right next to me. I dont blame her at all because you couldnt really tell if i was pregnant or not. I think its a bit silly that people dont have rights to smoke in pubs just because non smokers dont like it. Well if you dont like it you shouldnt be at a pub plain and simple.

By: aaronzig
27/05/2008
4:04 pm

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You can drink drive and kill as long as you dont get caught

-macsbiker

You can do anything you want, so long as you dont get caught.

Even smoke in a non-smoking area.....

By: seven2tenhertz
27/05/2008
4:09 pm

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"The only time i did mind was when i was 7 or 8 months pregnant waiting at the bus stop where a woman was smoking right next to me."

Was she smoking right next to you or were you standing right next to her while she smoked ?

By: nessa_sarily_so
27/05/2008
4:17 pm

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Even if I gave up smoking tomorrow I wouldn't go back to the bar...they lost my business at 'kick out' point FOREVER.

People will keep going with this banning stuff until every fun thing in the world ceases to exist. Something to look forward to there eh...

By: fastcar6933
27/05/2008
9:51 pm

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thankyou, it makes me feel so much better that there are people out there that still think this country is FREE, not a dictatorship, hell by 2020 i would not be suprised if we were a communist country the way it is going blomin do gooders

By: ol_whal
28/05/2008
8:34 am

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<<<so u cant smoke any were in queensland? not even in ur home or did i miss read?>>>

The law is a bit confusing alison, you can smoke in your own home but here's a catch even to that---as long as your neighbour doesn't complain about the smell.
You can't smoke within a public building ei, a Gov. owned building or one frequented by the public [any shop].
You can't smoke within 4 meters of a shop entrance
You can't smoke on beaches, in public parks etc or in cars with kids on board [not sure if that's law yet]
No throwing cig. butts out the window [again not sure]
Work places usually provide an area for those wanting a smoke.
Pubs and clubs also provide an area for smokers but I think that's optional.
I think our rules are basically the same as yours

By: alison_star_2002
28/05/2008
8:57 am

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yup but we can smoke in public places like the beach and parks almost every one trows the butts out the window here but it is still littering anyways so then it is against the law here too

but the smoking in your own home thing i think is stupid, my neighbor cooks dam curry every day and wow my house smells of it too but i cant do any thing about it.

By: nessa_sarily_so
28/05/2008
8:58 am

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Apparently the next step is to ban it in all pedestrian malls (Mackay city heart are gonna love that one in their cub zone!).
If all the hotel and club owners feel their is a conspiracy against them - I am not surprised.

Pity the cancer council don't spend freakall time educating people about the cancerous affects of everything else they put in their mouths.

By: nessa_sarily_so
28/05/2008
9:01 am

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This chick from Cancer council on tv last night CLAIMS a smoke affects someone 60 feet away...bullocks it does. They carry on too much.

By: whytefella
28/05/2008
11:02 am

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<...We have the right to drive on the road...>

No, you have the PRIVILEGE to drive on the road. It's not a right.

<...The Minority are getting to rule over the Majority...>

Actually, smokers are the minority. It's the MAJORITY who don't want to breathe in your cr@p any longer.

Smokers rave on about their RIGHT to smoke. What about a non-smoker's right to breathe 'clean' air?

IMO, smokers are the most selfish group on the planet.

By: brianbarry_thedogman
28/05/2008
11:18 am

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sorry nessa but as an asthmatic I can tell you it can.

However, even perfume and coffee can do the same (not all the time) to me at that distances.

By: fastcar6933
28/05/2008
11:27 am

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in the Australian Constitution is the right to use any infrastructure including road of any Australian, what about cars they pollute the atmosphere, what about industry they pollute the atmosphere are you going to ban them so your lungs feel better??

By: ginandtonic1963
28/05/2008
12:47 pm

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well, as a smoker i agree with everybody. both for and against. we have the right to smoke anywhere we like. in our car or our home.....these are OUR possesions. we own them. why is it now the government can dictate and tell us what to do.....i smoke while pregnant with both my kids and they turned out normal, and my son was asthmatic....he also now smokes, but my daughter does not. it's seam s no matter how you look at it. no one has any right's anymore....no matter what u do, someone will always see something wrong with it......do gooders should not go where they no smokers hang out. it's that simple.....stick to your own side of the road....so to speak......we smoke so get over it.....and we have right's. it's called deprivation of liberty!!!!!!! we should start a rally for smokers!!!!!!!!!

By: fastcar6933
28/05/2008
12:50 pm

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no your home is owned as long as coporal bligh doesnt need it to increase her bank balance

By: brianbarry_thedogman
28/05/2008
1:49 pm

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I understand that we need industry and cars and that this results in pollution, however, I moved from Brisbane to get away from this as I understood that it was for the greater good that the industries exist. I do not neccessariy agree witht eh pollution but if it complies with normal standards then so be it, I moved and they continue.

However, indescriminate smoking by a person doe not result in the greater good.

To use the old saying.

"You like smoke and the result of your action is me breathing in the smoke. I like to drink so does this give me the right to urinate all over you?"

By: macsbiker73@y7mail.com
28/05/2008
5:35 pm

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Well maybe i should word this a little clearer for you!
The new law just passed saying you can only eat in your own home with only your family. All places that you can eat out at are now closed. You cant drink at home only at a bar and you can only stand, consume more than 1 drink and get charged/on the spot fine.
Bet you would be one to jump up and down then. By the way WHY ONLY PARENTS SMOKING IN CARS WHY NOT EVERYONE. That is why it is discrimination.
If you truely are concerned about cancer be it from smoking or passive smoking. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE PRESERVATIVES IN OUR FOOD. HELP STOP THAT.

By: juliewoo40
28/05/2008
10:20 pm

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You have to wonder about no smoking in carparks or within 4 metres of shop doors.... but cars can!! and their emissions are much worse. I don't mind if people smoke around me, but exhaust fumes make me feel sickly for hours sometimes.
Truth is these laws have been purely made to 'justify' the exorbitant tax charged on cigarettes. So when all the smokers have had to give up, watch out all the non-smokers, it might be your 'pleasure in life' they will come after next to make up for the lost revenue.

By: fastcar6933
28/05/2008
10:48 pm

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yes, next it will be all motorbike riders are crazy "hoons" so outlaw them, all people giving processed food to there children are killing them so $150 on the spot fine, all parents allowing there children to climb trees toooo dangerous $250 on the spot fine........ when will it end

By: dixiesattic@y7mail.com
29/05/2008
3:22 am

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Yes the smoking laws are bad and it just gets worse, there are far worse things then smoking, and it makes it hard to enjoy anything when you have to stop to go out and smoke, and it doesnt make it any easier to quit just makes you not want to go anywhere, I will smoke in my home any time I want to its my home!!!

By: abithiwtitb
29/05/2008
4:39 am

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The last time I looked smoking was legal .The gov makes all these laws but imagine the furore if they banned smoking completly . Murders would go up I reckon .

By: ginandtonic1963
29/05/2008
11:37 am

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it seems they ban smoking but people are STILL talking on mobile phone's while driving.....go figure.....we as a nation will not stand up for ourselves, cause we are affraid of being ridiculed.....we have rights! and they are being taken from us, by the "DO-GOODERS", who whinge and whine about it.......if they dont like the smel of second-hand smoke then STAY OUT OF THE PUBS......stay the *** home......whingers!!!!!!! !!

By: nessa_sarily_so
29/05/2008
11:58 am

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if they dont like the smel of second-hand smoke then STAY OUT OF THE PUBS......stay the *** home......whingers!!!!!!! !!


No one is allowed to smoke in the pubs.

By: tamrajane1953
29/05/2008
1:58 pm

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i agree with you australia wake up the government cant control our lives enough is enough unless they pay my house my rates my rego and car payments then i might listen again i say i might lets find out what the goodies do and ban that
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