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Migrants replace striking trolley collectors
7:47 PM December 19
Skilled migrants have been flown into the Northern Territory's Top End shopping centres to replace local workers who are striking over pay conditions.
Local collectors who work for the Sydney-based Starlink International group have been on strike since Friday.
They claim they have not been paid for the extra hours they had to work over the busy Christmas shopping period.
Until yesterday, their employer Youssif Osman was collecting trolleys himself.
Now, Starlink has flown in nine workers from Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide to fill the void.
"They have no choice, they have to fly the workers to fix the problem," Mr Osman said.
Mr Osman says some people the company have brought in to push trolleys are in Australia on skilled migrant visas and are being paid a higher hourly rate than the local workers.
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By: govir_go
20/12/2006
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| Source: ABC only??? |
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By: govir_go
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| And isn't it ridiculous that the migrants are here on skilled migrant visas for other areas like fruit picking? |
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By: slikchic9565
20/12/2006
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govir_go says: "Source: ABC only???"
well, mate. if you wish to read the actual article for yourself then please click on to: http://au.biz.yahoo.com/061219/31/10sj5.html
to fellow readers, please know that i posted this news in here to make people aware of what these unscrupulous employers and their puppets are up to. everyone is of couse welcome to give their own personal point of view and thoughts of the matter. thanks you :) |
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By: govir_go
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| Is this another media link? |
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| See I gave my own personal point of view and thoughts of the matter especially the comments regarding fruit picking. |
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By: slikchic9565
21/12/2006
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hi govir_go: yeah, different link but came from the same source.
as for skilled migrants on a 3 year working visa for fruit picking, yes, i have heard about that too and yes, it is ridiculous, but what are we going to do about it? |
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By: govir_go
21/12/2006
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Email Members of Parliament, The Unions, The Media?
But hey if some of The Australian people won't do it, then bringing in workers from overseas has to do or the fruit and veg's will just go to waste. |
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Email Members of Parliament, The Unions, The Media?
But hey if some of The Australian people won't do it, then bringing in workers from overseas has to do or the fruit and veg's will just go to waste. |
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| Sorry Hi Sl |
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By: gattlinggun2000
22/12/2006
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but wait a minute.....they cant bring in overseas workers at such short notice as the paperwork cant be done that fast.
its also highly unlikely that the replacement workers had any skilled visas.how on earth did they get into australia without an employer sponsoring them fer that skilled visa in the first place????
maybe they were on student visas???i remembered they are allowed to work during the holidays.
i conclude that the replacement workers were either on student visas or forged visas.
ok.....lets start on how the IR law failed again.they just cant fire workers who arent paid!!!!dont the employer actually get sent off to jail???whats goin to happen iof osama bin laden setup a chain of drug stores and fired all his workers cuz he had to much drugs???
wont the boss get away scot free with murder??
and what bout those families of the people he fired???are they starving?are they crying on xmas eve??families break up and people end up suicidal just cuz the boss are tyrants and terrorists!!!
think the IR law should have more laws imposed on bosses who fire workers without paying workers for work done.
maybe jail bosses and fine bosses or have them do community work like in most countries. |
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By: slikchic9565
23/12/2006
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gattlinggun2000. hi, I agree with you. It looks as though some employers have been getting away in employing students on visas or people on forged visas for quite sometime now and this has become a norm.
As for the new IR law, I believe that it failed tremendously on workers side, for example, employers who advertise for workers to do a "trial" need not pay them for a day, 2 days or a week's work. I'm not just saying this because I deslike the IR regulators for encouraging employers in doing this sort of practice but it has been happening.
In the case of a voluntary firefighter, he was sacked because he went and helped put out a fire. Under the new legislation, employers who dismiss their employees for doing a good cause will face fines of ten thousand dollars. |
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By: slikchic9565
24/12/2006
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gattlinggun2000: "maybe jail bosses and fine bosses or have them do community work like in most countries"
In Australia, at the moment we have all the opportunity to maintain our country "the lucky country", imposing laws of another country into the country is probably a good idea but as per your comment above when it comes to IR laws, all I want and I believe it that the majority of Australian workers only want a fair day's pay for a fair day's work. There has to be a balance. |
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By: peekaboobow
28/12/2006
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THE BEST WAY TO STOP THIS INVASION OF MIGRANT WORKERS COMING HERE ON VISAS TO UNDERCUT THE LOCAL WORKFORCE AND TO EMPOWER UNAUSTRALIAN EMPLOYERS TO BULLY OR DISMISS LOCAL EMPLOYEES IS TO WRITE TO YOUR LOCAL/FEDERAL MP
AND BEST OF ALL VOTE THE EVIL PRICK JOHN HOWARD OUT OF OFFICE
THE LIBERAL PARTY STANDS FOR THE VERY RICH AND THEIR BUSINESS ONLY - THEY DONT REPRESENT SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS NOR DO THEY REPRESENT THE 80% GENERAL POPULATION OF AUSTRALIANS |
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By: jt200660
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| Just a small point on the trolley collectors, not all of them are migrants and while a lot of them are, they are also migrants who actually are local not flown in. Some of them are also totally useless at their job and we were better off when no one was collecting the trolleys! The strike incidently is about pay and conditions - they went on strike BEFORE Xmas. |
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By: burgosemail
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| collecting trolleys in Darwin is no mean feat. They end up all over the place kilometers away from where they came from. I don't envy anyone that job. |
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By: elrabbito99
6/02/2007
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| with so many people still on welfare, unemployment/newstart benefits, why do we need to import workers. We have plenty here costing the tax payer a fortune,doing nothing. Tell them to apply for the unfilled job vacancies and cancel their dole so they will , shock oh horror, actually have to work. |
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7/02/2007
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elrabbito99 says; "Tell them to apply for the unfilled job vacancies and cancel their dole so they will , shock oh horror, actually have to work."
The thing is the unemployed or people that are on newstart benefits are now being referred to agencies who also get donations from the liberal government, the problem with this program is that these agencies are not really helping the unemployed in finding them jobs but keeping them in their organisation for as long as they can. And I don't blame them either, they are getting hand outs too. |
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By: elrabbito99
8/02/2007
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| My understanding of the agencies,(open to correction of course) is that it is performance based. Find the client a job and get paid a finders fee. No job, no fee? But this is a separate item to the basic newstart allowance. This is paid by the fed Government so in effect they should be in control of this unnecessary (in many cases) payment to what can only be called bludgers. |
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9/02/2007
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If people don't want to work what are the employers supposed to do. If they offer good money to work but no one wants to work these days as the Government has made the dole to easy (money).
I am not saying get people from overseas but esle can business do.
look at the Aisan countires the do not have dole money and yet all will find something to do to feed their families and of course they will come here for the work. The can support there familiues.
Lets just get rid of the dole altogether...that might get peole of the loungue and of to work.. |
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By: elrabbito99
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| The difficulty with removing the dole is it will increase crime. A certain number of recipients will not work if their life depended on it. If the free money stopped comming in the "mail" then they would take the simple option and steal it. I would prefer photo /finger print ID (to stop double dipping) and for each recipient to justify their non-work situation. If in doubt the Fed Gov should cancel it or put them on a road gang type employment scheme. ie NO money for NO work. No sit down money. |
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By: venustrine67
9/02/2007
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look at the Aisan countires the do not have dole money and yet all will find something to do to feed their families and of course they will come here for the work. The can support there familiues.
Yes, but look at how much they are being paid, including children being forced to work, people forced to work in sweat shops etc. Would the average Aussie put up with this, I don't think so!!!! Why do you think so many companies are now moving to Asia. It is because they don't have to pay them as much, which is at the expense of jobs in Australia, USA and other Western Countries.
When I first left school, if you wanted the dole, you had to register with the CES (Commonwealth Employment Service), who would actually job match people. If a job came in matching your job description, you HAD to go for the interview, and you had to have a pretty good reason for refusing the job, if it was offerred to you.
Now that they have abolished that, and it is all self service, and you now need a referral to agencies which are now run by the likes of the Salvation Army, people can actually get away with not finding a job. All they need to do, is go for an interview and get the form signed, and they do not have to take the job.
I reckon they should bring back National Service training, so that everyone has to do some time serving the country in the Defence Force.
and work for the dole should not be voluntary participation any longer, if you don't look for work, you should have to work for the dole. But then I guess most Australians would be whinging about the conditions and wanting more money. |
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By: elrabbito99
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| Must agree venus. But to train more people to kill (national service) is the last thing our violent and sad society needs. Disipline is good without the kill bit. |
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