By: pol_pak
23/06/2009
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Focus on Aboriginal leaders' role in abuse
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197 ,25669013-5006790,00.html
THE involvement of Aboriginal leaders in child sex abuse -- and their role in covering it up -- will become a focus of the Australian Crime Commission over the next year, as it expands its operations in the Northern Territory intervention into Queensland and NSW.
In an interim report to police commissioners, Australia's lead crime body said its specialist taskforce on child abuse had found leaders were using their position to facilitate violence and pedophilia, including the intimidation of victims and witnesses.
The taskforce, which is expanding its investigations into Western NSW and Queensland's Cape York communities, said it had passed on evidence to state police. It also intended to present a report to government on the systemic problem.
The move to expand the operations of the taskforce from the Territory intervention, launched by the Howard government in June 2007, comes as the indigenous community debates a possible new body to replace the defunct ATSIC.
ACC chief executive John Lawler this month delivered a yet to be publicly released interim report from the taskforce. The report is now being considered by ACC board members, made up of state and federal police, ASIO, Customs and the commonwealth Attorney-General.
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By: pol_pak
1/07/2009
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Indigenous leaders worried by dole changes
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/07/01/2613 388.htm
Indigenous community leaders across Western Australia have spoken out against the scrapping of the Aboriginal work-for-the-dole-scheme, which takes effect today.
The Commonwealth's Community Development Employment Projects (CDEP) scheme has assisted many Aboriginal communities more than 20 years.
It formed the backbone of many remote communities, which have struggled to create functioning economies.
But the Federal Government is phasing out the program to bring Aboriginal welfare arrangements into line with the mainstream system.
The president of the Unity of First People of Australia, Ernie Bridge, says it is unrealistic to expect Aboriginal people to move straight into the mainstream economy.
"The community members are quite concerned," he said.
"They see this as presenting them with great uncertainties about the future survival of some communities. That is of huge concern to some people, they want to be able to continue to live where they are."
As of today, no new CDEP jobs will be offered, and existing positions will be phased out over the next two years.
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So Ernie Bridge says it is unrealistic to expect Aboriginal people to move straight into the mainstream economy.
Perhaps he has a short memory... given same excuse presented for decades to deny all their basic human rights and do all those other wrong result things for decades.
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By: pol_pak
2/07/2009
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The previous CDEP jobs can still be used, as part of satisfying an individuals demonstration of preparedness to work.
Particularly where not a lot of paid jobs such "volunteer" activities are used.
No payrolls to fiddle with, just participation/activity sheets... |
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By: pathogan70
2/07/2009
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Heres one for you... Some communities recieve large sums of money from mining companies, and some dont. All communities, from what I can see, are plagued by the same old societal problems. Thusly, at face value, throwing money at the problem does not really solve it.
Special laws are needed for these people, such as alcohol management plans etc., as personal responsibility is a bit thin on the ground.
Step one will be to shut down these communities where there is no hope and no future, assimilate the people into normal housing commission housing, and do something productive with the land. For example, you could knock all the buildings down on Palm Island and make a lovely resort. |
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By: dallone.ranger
2/07/2009
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Special laws are needed for these people, such as alcohol management plans etc., as personal responsibility is a bit thin on the ground.
Step one will be to shut down these communities where there is no hope and no future, assimilate the people into normal housing commission housing,
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Alcohol management is in place in communities in the NT, as is welfare payment management to prevent all the money being spent on playing cards, buying grog and dope etc. Half their money is quarantined and can only be used at shops for buying food and essentials.
The current plan in the NT is to stop new funding of outstations and create 20 major centres, towns, where normal town facilities will be concentrated. Normal housing commission housing is a part of it I believe. |
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By: pathogan70
2/07/2009
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Thats a step in the right direction then.
I'd also like to see more emphasis put on genuine education, this is probably the biggy in my opinion. I would like to see many more indigenous people at uni, but studying real stuff, not feel-good indigenous studies courses that have no practical application. I think dumbing-down courses and affirmative action are doing immense harm to the cause. |
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By: dallone.ranger
2/07/2009
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Before they can study at uni they need to have been made to attend school by their parents, all the way through from primary up.
The Aboriginals who are currently doing that are the southern ones who live the same as whites do. Fullblood kids in remote communities in the NT have shocking truancy rates. Much of it is parent apathy of education, plus absurd cultural practices which see kids taken here and there for funerals which can last for weeks at a time.
Some parents have been threatened with loss of some welfare payment for not sending their children to school, however none have actually lost any yet. |
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By: pol_pak
2/07/2009
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pathogan70: Special laws are needed for these people, such as alcohol management plans etc., as personal responsibility is a bit thin on the ground.
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Special laws are the reason we have these problems.
The "special laws" mostly exemptions from the usual terms and conditions applicable.
The "special laws" mostly activities designed to replace all the usual terms and conditions applicable....
Such racism was, is, and some wish does remain, the problem !
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By: pathogan70
2/07/2009
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Hey Pol, I think you have it back to front. The laws are reactive and not proactive. Alcohol management plans are a response to problems arising from innapropriate consumption, and going by statistics on violence and medical presentations, it is having a positive impact.
I'd really like the "R" word to be used sparingly, otherwise its used as an insult and has no currency. |
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By: dallone.ranger
2/07/2009
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Neglect and violence
It shows the rate of substantiated notifications for child abuse or neglect for Indigenous children has more than doubled since 1999-2000, from 16 per 1000 children to 35 per 1000 children.
At the same time, the rate for non-Indigenous children has risen from five to six per 1000.
The report says 41 out of every 1000 Indigenous children were subject to care and protection orders, while five out of every 1000 non-Indigenous children were under similar orders.
Indigenous policy professor John Altman says the child abuse gap increase probably reflects the ongoing affects of the marginalisation of Indigenous people.
"Relatively, Indigenous people live in greater poverty, have poorer housing, a poorer education and poorer employment prospects," Professor Altman said.
"And the fact that those gaps exists probably explains to a large extent the high levels of child abuse."
Other violence-related data in the report showed poor outcomes for Indigenous people.
Indigenous people were hospitalised as a result of domestic violence at a rate 34 times higher than non-Indigenous people.
The Indigenous homicide rate was seven times higher than the non-Indigenous rate.
Aboriginal people were 13 times more likely to end up in jail as non-Indigenous people.
The imprisonment rate for Indigenous women and men has increased by 46 and 27 per cent respectively since 2000.
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No doubt many apologists will blame white people for this. |
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By: steve_ropa
3/07/2009
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***No doubt many apologists will blame white people for this.***
so finally you are waking up to the truth, but the truth of it is you're so full of s h i t you can't tell the difference |
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By: dallone.ranger
3/07/2009
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Ahh Ropes, I have said it before and I say it again, what would we do without you, for a laugh.
***No doubt many apologists will blame white people for this.***
You answered the above statement of mine with;
""so finally you are waking up to the truth, but the truth of it is you're so full of s h i t you can't tell the difference""
Oh Ropes, go on, give us another one. |
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4/07/2009
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By: pathogan70
4/07/2009
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Why dont you boys kiss and make up.
The entire situation with indigenous people will only ever be helped by education. Real, genuine, education. No amount of money or well meaning programs will ever be more than a photo opportunity for politicians, as the saying goes "a fool and his money are easily parted". Without a genuine education, any efforts will collapse in a screaming heap. And here's the clincher, those same politicians dont really give a hoot because terms of political tenure (4 years) are much shorter than any effective plan of action will take. |
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By: monday29th
4/07/2009
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so, what's a meth lab smell like lone ranger.
You would probably know better then him. After all you have been bludging of the locals for most of your life. Surely they would share their meth with you. |
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By: monday29th
4/07/2009
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Without a genuine education, any efforts will collapse in a screaming heap
But how do you educate people who think the stone age is the golden age ? 40,000 years and all they came up with is a stick that comes back when you throw it. Remarkable |
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Without a genuine education, any efforts will collapse in a screaming heap
But how do you educate people who think the stone age is the golden age ? 40,000 years and all they came up with is a stick that comes back when you throw it. Remarkable |
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By: pathogan70
4/07/2009
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Its actually around 116 000 years (find research on Lynchs crater pollen/charcoal). 40 000 years is generally used, because this is the technical limit of carbon-dating. The aborigines evolved to survive and flourish in an environment, they had no reason to evolve further that being able to survive here (which they did brilliantly). A lot of people wont like that, but thats how it is.
So many early explorers died needlessly, such as Bourke and Wills, surrounded by food sources they would have been too proud to take advantage of... lizards, insects, roots.. |
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By: steve_ropa
5/07/2009
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***40,000 years and all they came up with is a stick that comes back when you throw it. Remarkable***
yes, inventing the aerodynamic wing was remarkable |
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By: steve_ropa
5/07/2009
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***The entire situation with indigenous people will only ever be helped by education****
that's exactly right, every white person should be educated to the fact that this was aboriginal land and was stolen by invaders |
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By: jackobirdofprey
5/07/2009
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that's exactly right, every white person should be educated to the fact that this was aboriginal land and was stolen by invaders
every aboriginal should be educated on the fact "the invasion" happened over 200 years ago and times have changed. Also aborigines need to be educated to realise that nobody owes them a living. |
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By: steve_ropa
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***every aboriginal should be educated on the fact "the invasion" happened over 200 years ago and times have changed. Also aborigines need to be educated to realise that nobody owes them a living***
another ignorant armchair expert |
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By: jackobirdofprey
5/07/2009
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another ignorant armchair expert
and another do-gooder or aboriginal who blames their self induced farked up life on white society. |
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By: steve_ropa
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***and another do-gooder or aboriginal who blames their self induced farked up life on white society.***
the mt druitt expert jackoff, bloody fool |
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By: monday29th
5/07/2009
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yes, inventing the aerodynamic wing was remarkable
Shame it took them 40,000 years. But what else can you expect from people who think trading their own children for sex is okay. |
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