By: saturday4th
10/04/2009
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you wouldn't last 32 minutes in my
Maybe, maybe not. Either way it still doesn't answer my question. You've had plenty of opportunity over the last 32 years to train locals to do your job. Instead all you've done is look after your own interests.
So this would either make you a fraud or a hypocrite. Which is it ? |
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By: steve_ropa
10/04/2009
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***You've had plenty of opportunity over the last 32 years to train locals to do your job***
should i take that as a compliment that you think i have been in the same job for 32 years?
i am multi skilled, over 32 years i have been employed and trained locals in positions such as plumber, librarian, media - both radio and video broadcasting, horticulture, commonwealth bank agency, tillair charter agency, cooking and food preparation, woodworking, music production, computer skills. just a few of the things i have contributed
to my community, how about you, what have you done for your community????? |
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By: saturday4th
11/04/2009
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i am multi skilled, over 32 years
LOL you left out fraud & charlatan |
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By: givemeanidnow_03
11/04/2009
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Sat I think that goes without saying LOL
BTW did you ask him about the 70,000 year old cave painting etc ? |
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By: steve_ropa
11/04/2009
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***LOL you left out fraud & charlatan***
if you think you can bait me with your childish insults you got no hope mate.
your intellect is just not up to it |
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By: steve_ropa
11/04/2009
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***BTW did you ask him about the 70,000 year old cave painting etc ?***
and you still haven't come up with any evidence to disprove i
its gets a bit boring corresponding with people who have an iq lower then their shoe size |
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By: pol_pak
11/04/2009
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only start long article..
ALICE SPRINGS NEWS
April 9, 2009
http://www.alicespringsnews.com.au
A remote community where all adults work & kids go to school. By KIERAN FINNANE.
By KIERAN FINNANE
A remote community where all able-bodied adults work, where children go to school every day, where the community raises most of its own food, where people are strong in their own language and culture while also speaking English and interacting with 'the mainstream': this community exists ... it's the Papunya of memory for Alison Anderson, now the Territory's Indigenous Affairs Minister, and her-sister-in-law Linda Anderson, a teacher.
It's the place where they spent happy childhoods but where today, as in many other remote communities, they fear for the futures of the community's children.
Alison lived her first years in Haasts Bluff, born, like so many of her generation and those before her, in the bush - under a tree in the creek.
There was a ration depot at Haasts Bluff and a Lutheran mission. Aboriginal people initially lived in humpies across the creek. They would get their water from a soakage.
After a while the missionaries moved people into 'sheet of iron housing'.
'They were nice houses compared to humpies. We felt really proud, they were like little mansions!' says Alison.
She was eight years old when her family moved to Papunya. A ration depot had been established there; the community was closer to her family's country; there were more job opportunities.
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to read the rest, is a good article ;-)
open link http://www.alicespringsnews.com.au/1610.html
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By: pol_pak
21/04/2009
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open link http://www.alicespringsnews.com.au/1610.html
Why not reading ?
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By: dallone.ranger
21/04/2009
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| Read it Pol, too bad everyone here hasn't. |
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By: pol_pak
21/05/2009
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/05/21/2577 059.htm
Increased policing under the federal intervention in the Northern Territory has led to a dramatic rise in the number of people being sent to jail, a Senate inquiry into remote Indigenous communities has heard.
The North Australian Aboriginal Justice Agency told the inquiry, which is being held in Darwin, that the Northern Territory now hands out three times more prison sentences than the national average.
NAAJA representative Helen Wodak says there is a gross under-utilisation of non-custodial sentences in Territory courts.
A Central Australian Aboriginal Legal Aid Service officer, Mark O'Reilly, says there has been an increase in police charging people with a range of offences but the penalties were mostly jail terms or fines, with very little in between.
He says this has resulted in a surge in the number of people being jailed for driving offences as well as for serious criminal charges.
The director of the Northern Territory Legal Aid Commission, Suzan Cox, QC, has told the inquiry she has not seen a sentence for a community work order in a remote community in years.
"We really need a lot more officers out in the communities where people can do community work orders," she said.
"I haven't seen anyone do a community work order for years.
"They just don't get them." |
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By: pol_pak
21/05/2009
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The director of the NT Legal Aid Commission, Suzan Cox, QC told the inquiry she had not seen a sentence for a community work order in a remote community in years.
Suzan Cox, QC :
"We really need a lot more officers out in the communities where people can do community work orders," she said.
"I haven't seen anyone do a community work order for years."
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Do people see the connection ?
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By: dallone.ranger
21/05/2009
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| The new 'growth towns' may see more community work orders issued. |
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By: pol_pak
21/05/2009
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/05/21/2577 422.htm
Racial Discrimination Act to be reinstated in NT
Jenny Macklin
Aboriginal people could soon be able to apply for an exemption from income quarantining, says Indigenous Affairs Minister, Jenny Macklin. (AAP: Alan Porritt, file photo)
The Federal Government will introduce legislation in October to reinstate the Racial Discrimination Act in the Northern Territory, but it will maintain income management and alcohol and pornography restrictions in Aboriginal communities.
The act was suspended in the Northern Territory in mid-2007 to allow for the federal intervention to take place.
Since then, Indigenous welfare recipients in the Northern Territory have had their payments quarantined, while alcohol and pornography have been banned in most Aboriginal communities.
Federal Indigenous Affairs Minister, Jenny Macklin, today announced the Government would begin a consultation process with Indigenous communities to design a compulsory income management policy which can operate without the need to suspend the Racial Discrimination Act.
She released a discussion paper outlining several possible changes to the way incomes are managed, including allowing Aboriginal people to apply to Centrelink for an exemption from income quarantining.
"Getting an exemption would require an assessment of the person's circumstances against set criteria," the discussion paper says.
Among the criteria are the person's family responsibilities, evidence of participation in antisocial behaviour and "vulnerability to violence, coercion or 'humbugging'".
Ms Macklin said the Government would introduce amendments to the legislation in October. |
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By: pol_pak
21/05/2009
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Latest media releases - Jenny Macklin MP
21/05/2009 Towards a sustainable development phase: Discussion paper on Future Directions for the NTER
The Australian Government is today releasing a discussion paper which will form the basis for intensive consultation with Indigenous Northern Territory (NT) communities on designing a compulsory income management policy which does not require the suspension of the Racial Discrimination Act 1975 (RDA).
http://www.jennymacklin.fahcsia.gov.au/internet/je nnymacklin.nsf/content/future_directions_nter_21ma y09.htm
21/05/2009 SIHIP works underway in NT
Refurbishments under the Strategic Indigenous Housing and Infrastructure Program (SIHIP) have started on the Tiwi Islands, Groote Eylandt and in Tennant Creek, with construction of new houses expected to start in coming months.
http://www.jennymacklin.fahcsia.gov.au/internet/je nnymacklin.nsf/content/sihip_underway_nt_21may09.h tm
20/05/2009 NT Government's framework for reform in remote areas
The Northern Territory Government's policy document on remote NT regions is another important step forward in tackling Indigenous disadvantage through the effective delivery of services to people living in remote communities.
http://www.jennymacklin.fahcsia.gov.au/internet/je nnymacklin.nsf/content/jm_mr_remote_area_reform_fr amework_20may09.htm
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By: pol_pak
21/05/2009
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On 21 May 2009 the Government released discussion paper 5 PDF [366kB]
http://www.fahcsia.gov.au/sa/indigenous/progserv/n tresponse/future_directions/Documents/discussion_p aper_5.pdf
Proposals for the measures affected by the RDA as a starting point for discussion.
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By: pol_pak
25/05/2009
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Comment from Pol Pak
Time May 25, 2009 at 2:35 pm
http://enpassant.com.au/?p=3347
Recent Commonwealth intervention was NOT about Aboriginal land.
It was about the abuse of people in the communities - women, children, even males, by others many of whom are related.
Principle cause of this is isolation of our communities and families living there from the protections available to mainstream Australia.
This isolation mostly helps government hide its mismanagement of child protection, family protection, improving education and improving general qualities of life in these communities.
This isolation mostly helps racists to maintain their arguments for segregation, for treating people different on basis of deemed racial identifications, rather than as equal humans.
The isolation from abuse of the permits system by those in authority makes inhabitants third class citizens, losing control over their lives, their futures.
Totalitarian desire to do this is common in extremes of the left and the right. Indeed those extremes go so far to left and right they join up down in the pits.
Lefties desire control of all the resources by the learned few.
You suggest Alison Anderson talking rubbish ?
[Try seach http://www.alicespringsnews.com.au ]
So you support the segregation of families by racial testing, as is applied to families in their "Traditional Homelands" ?
So you support denial to families their rights to have their visitors, visit them in their homes, when they chose, as applied to families in their "Traditional Homelands" ?
Cease being part of the problem, become part of the solution .
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By: pol_pak
25/05/2009
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Read En Passants site for a bit of difference, BTW some rational and perhaps valid, however the part En Passant wrote which annoyed me is below.
http://enpassant.com.au/?p=3347
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So what should the response of the State, as the representative and supposed protector of the community, be?
When unproved sex abuse allegations against Aboriginal people in the Northern Territory cropped up, the Howard Government sent in the troops. Rudd Labor continues the invasion.
This intervention was really about stealing Aboriginal land and making the original inhabitants third class citizens, losing all control over their lives.
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25/05/2009
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Read En Passants site for a bit of difference, BTW some rational and perhaps valid, however the part En Passant wrote which annoyed me is below.
http://enpassant.com.au/?p=3347
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So what should the response of the State, as the representative and supposed protector of the community, be?
When unproved sex abuse allegations against Aboriginal people in the Northern Territory cropped up, the Howard Government sent in the troops. Rudd Labor continues the invasion.
This intervention was really about stealing Aboriginal land and making the original inhabitants third class citizens, losing all control over their lives.
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I thought en passant (in passing) was just a chess move.
This dope, like many here, just doesn't have a clue. Just another alarmist like Anka Rope etc. |
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By: pol_pak
29/05/2009
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Parent law ties women to men
Caroline Overington | May 29, 2009
WIVES who follow their husbands to remote corners of Australia in search of work may find themselves stuck in their new home town, unable to leave with the children.
The Family Court has ruled that new shared-parenting laws, brought in by the Howard government in 2006, mean that the right of a child to have a relationship with both parents trumps the right of a mother to return to her home state, even if she has lived in the new location for less than a year.
In the most recent case, the court ruled that a 34-year-old mother could not leave an "isolated" town in northwest Queensland with her five-year-old daughter after her marriage broke down, because it would rupture the close relationship the girl had with her father.
The case has prompted concern among family law experts that the shared-parenting law is effectively forcing people "back into failed relationships".
Elspeth McInnes, a researcher in family law at the University of South Australia, cited research by the Family Law Council that suggested the right of women to relocate after divorce had essentially been lost, under the amendments to the Family Law Act.
"Previously, judges were prepared to consider the idea that women or mums could go where there is extended family support for them and their children," Ms McInnes said.
"Under the new laws, the meaningful relationship with both parents has moved up (to take greater priority).
"There are still ways to say the child is better served by returning to the town where she was born but basically, judges are telling resident parents, mainly women, that they have to stay put.
"They subordinate women's time with their children around a husband's work demands."
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http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197 ,25554242-5006787,00.html
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Wonder if they realize the havoc such orders could cause around NT communities...
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By: pol_pak
15/06/2009
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Macklin endorses income quarantining
Natasha Robinson | June 15, 2009
INDIGENOUS Affairs Minister Jenny Macklin has strongly endorsed a key plank of the Howard government's intervention into remote Aboriginal communities, indicating that income quarantining of welfare payments will continue despite the reintroduction of the Racial Discrimination Act.
Consultations will begin this week in several central Australian communities over the future of the billion-dollar intervention into 73 remote indigenous communities and town camps.
But the hopes of Aboriginal rights activists that income quarantining would have to become a voluntary rather than a compulsory measure once the Racial Discrimination Act was reinstated look set to be dashed.
Ms Macklin indicated yesterday she was in favour of a continuation of compulsory income quarantining, whereby 50 per cent of a recipient's welfare payments must be spent on essential items such as food and clothing, describing it as a measure that was beneficial to Aborigines.
Under the Racial Discrimination Act, special measures that are deemed to be beneficial to a particular racial group can trigger an exemption from the provisions of the act.
"My personal view is that these (income quarantining) measures have been beneficial to the Aboriginal people living in these remote communities," Ms Macklin said yesterday.
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15/06/2009
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Part of the rest;
Valerie Martin from the central Australian community of Yuendumu was scathing of moves to continue compulsory income management.
"It's not fair," she said. "We should be able to control ourselves and our own money without the government telling us what to do and controlling us. They're treating us like animals, like guinea pigs, testing us out what's good for us and what's bad. It's really bad how the government is treating us."
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Part of what she says is correct, the bit about;
'"We should be able to control ourselves and our own money without the government telling us what to do and controlling us.'
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Exactly, however, over and over and over you have shown that you cannot control yourselves in many aspects of your lives. Hence the intervention. You have had many many years to learn how to control yourselves, and control your money, and in perhaps the vast majority of cases you have failed, miserably.
The intervention is teaching you how to control yourselves and how to control your money. How else will you learn? |
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By: pol_pak
16/06/2009
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Valerie Martin and others in communities say they wish to control themselves with their own money without the government needing to contribute.
Government(s) and most Australians very happy to see this.
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By: dallone.ranger
16/06/2009
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There are those Pol who can control their own money, (but lets be accurate here, those who earn their own money are not included, only those on welfare) and indeed their own lives, in a manner which does not require external influence. There always has been. However there are thousands who cannot, and it is because of these people the intervention came into being.
Always there are those who spoil it for others who do the right thing. Just look at our liquor laws in the NT and the 3km rule, etc etc. All because of itinerants from communities. I'm sure there are numerous other examples which apply to the same group.
Members in remote coastal communities are now celebrating the 1st anniversary of their lawyers winning a case giving them total rights to the sea adjoining the NT coast, or 80% of it.
And they are unhappy because the government will not give them more than they already get to live on outstations on 'their own' land. As if white people got extra money to live on their own land.
As far as I'm concerned they have already got enough at everyone else's expense. Do they give anything back? No. They claim the sea, as if they owned it, and will want compensation for whites to use it.
Perhaps I'm just having a bad day, but right now I say stuff them, don't ask their opinion on any matter, as if the Fed government will really take one iota of notice what they say anyway, thank god. They have had plenty of time to shape up, now it's time for them to ship out of their holiday shacks and start accepting some responsibility, especially for their children, and begin living like mainstream Australians. Or else. |
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By: pol_pak
18/06/2009
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Why did the intervention occur ?
Governments - the NT and the Commonwealth, both refused to use their existing legislations concerning financial assistance, and concerning those who misbehave, or fail to behave appropriately, in each of their existing departmental responsibilities.
Rather than address the issues correctly through the existing legislation, the Commonwealth decided to act on its own - no credit here to the NT government, in a manner designed to make it look decisive and of good intentions.
Those of racist beliefs and approach are not recognized, indeed debate so poor in these areas - parliamentary and public, that many remain confused as to just what racism is.
Result is supporters of racism are winning, for to them any dispute within which a racial tag can be cast forward as reasoning is itself a victory.
As my father would say, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"
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19/06/2009
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The contribution of homelands to traditional owners
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=9 055&page=0
About the Author
Jimmy Pascoe is a traditional owner and Chairman of Bawinanga Aboriginal Corporation based at Maningrida in West Arnhem Land.
It took Marion Scrymgour's resignation from the Northern Territory Labor Government to force Chief Minister Paul Henderson to agree to do more research about, and economic modeling of, the Territory's ancestral lands with a view, we hope, to changing the homelands policy.
The NT Government hasn't clearly set out the implications of the plan to create 20 regional economic and education hubs from selected existing towns (15 of which will also be funded by the Commonwealth).
Which existing homelands will be abandoned? Which homeland bilingual schools will be closed? And why? Traditional owners and their families are concerned we run the risk of losing our languages.
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