By: dallone.ranger
31/03/2009
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I have noted your response Ropes.
You have refused to retract the statement you made concerning me and my part Aboriginal children, and you have refused to apologise for making it.
OK. There is nothing more I will say about this issue here. |
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By: dallone.ranger
31/03/2009
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Now getting back to your previous lie about me.
I said to you;
***Previously here you have lied about me losing a job because of some interference in a NT election. That was absurd and I treated it as a joke. But I do not treat this accusation as a joke.***
You replied;
not my accusation, but those of the nt news and media watch and those who know the facts
as they say, dont shoot the messenger
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OK, what job did, quote,
"those of the nt news and media watch and those who know the facts"
say I was sacked from?
Previously I have asked you to give some details about this supposed sacking, and you have failed to provide any.
If you don't have any, which I know you don't, why don't you just admit you made it up? |
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By: pol_pak
31/03/2009
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Referrence to people as "part" is regarded as offensive and/or as gross ignorance.
It is blaming children for who their parents or grandparents may have been... as though is their fault for choosing the wrong parents.
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By: pol_pak
31/03/2009
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To suggest a person has lost a job because of some interference in a NT/any election can be subject to criminal as well as civil action and penalties.
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By: dallone.ranger
1/04/2009
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Pol, I have children whose mother is a fullblood Aboriginal,
Now. Are they Aboriginal, or white? Or, PART Aboriginal.
For frigs sake man, get real.
The other day on the news I heard a younger Galarrwuy Yunupingu use exactly the same term. |
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By: dallone.ranger
1/04/2009
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| Just finished watching The Castle, great Aussie movie. |
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By: pol_pak
1/04/2009
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They are neither to me, rather they are just fellow Australians.
Sure they may have learnt some culture from those you refer to as parts' better known as 'culture'
'Culture' is what you learn, which for some includes parts they need unlearn.
The descriptive of how some one looks is their cosmetic appearance, whether they are redhead, blonde, slanted eyes, brown eyes, green eyes, flat noses, pointy noses, no tan, light tan, dark tan, none of these are things useable to measure their value as friends...
IF we wish one day to live in a perfect world, where we are all good towards each other, we need start living today as if we are already in that perfect world.
BTW, being human we often fail there... it is whether we get up and keep trying that counts.
Reality.... what is reality ?
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By: dallone.ranger
1/04/2009
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I do not accept that argument Pol. In the same way as we describe fruit accurately, so as we know what is edible and what is not, is an obvious example.
The whole world of science is about describing things super accurately, why should we drift away from describing people accurately.
You said;
"The descriptive of how some one looks is their cosmetic appearance, whether they are redhead, blonde, slanted eyes, brown eyes, green eyes, flat noses, pointy noses, no tan, light tan, dark tan, none of these are things useable to measure their value as friends.."
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I totally agree that none of the above should be 'usable' to measure ones friends, or even more importantly, 'usable' when choosing ones friends.
However, why should accurately describing ones friends, or ones enemies for that matter, degrade them? And lets face it, many in OZ today who have so little black blood they they are indistinguishable from a white Australian, demand to be called black. How silly is that. |
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By: pol_pak
1/04/2009
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Subtlety of language often to much for those who speak it, even more so for those who do not ;-)
To describe person(s) to identify those did something is different to suggesting anyone fitting description does the same.
eg all redheads drive red cars, all cars colored red therefore driven by redheads...
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By: dallone.ranger
1/04/2009
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To describe person(s) to identify those did something is different to suggesting anyone fitting description does the same.
Where did you see the above Pol? |
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By: pol_pak
2/04/2009
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Not so much something "wrong" in what you wrote, rather where it leads...
Exists danger in discussions concerning the A* word how initially simple positions to indicate differences end up becoming central measures used to define rights and or responsibilities which are determined on basis of the terms usage.... a cyclical process.
Such positions similar to racist explanations, justifications, for the very actions being reacted against.
Challenged is the validity of using such indicative descriptors as measures, particularly when may qualify rights and or responsibilities.
Ethnic identity relates to patterns of thought (or absence thereof) which we learn from others more than a genetic map.
Is it OK for parliament to pass a genetic test referring to a specific identifier with qualification of rights or responsibilities based upon the result ?
Those who think yes, likely more pleased to see us like Germany in 1930's, despite long history of intermarriage and relationships, many on such purported testing, required to wear the Star of David... then other hazards.
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By: dallone.ranger
2/04/2009
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You know Pol, I find it a little strange that you have trouble using the R word. The word is Aboriginal and it is OK to use it when talking about those of that race.
And the reference to Germany in the 30's is off the planet.
Many in Australia who have a little Aboriginal in their genetic makeup cry loud and long that they want to be recognised as, you guessed it, Aboriginal, and they can take great offence if their wishes are not heeded.
At the other end of the 'recognised' spectrum we have newspapers like our local NT NEWS who regularly publish stories about an Aboriginal who has achieved this or that, or received this or that accolade.
I don't think you can have it both ways. If Aboriginals want recognition when they have done good, so be it, (albeit it is usually the very white ones, the ones born and raised in white society who are the recipients of these awards and accolades), but it goes two ways. When they stuff up they must be prepared to cop the flack too, just like the rest of us.
Perhaps contrary to the belief of some, I think the Aboriginal race can survive the good, as well as the bad and the ugly, and let's face it, today there is more ugly than good. But it won't always be that way, I'd wager. |
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By: ferret.jones74
2/04/2009
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| As a Part Aboriginal part Irish dutch english yank kiwi etc I find this disturbing to me and other Bitsas out there. |
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By: steve_ropa
2/04/2009
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give up while you're still ahead, pol.
you can't win an argument with racists or the religious, their ignorance wont let you, its too ingrained in their psyche. |
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By: ferret.jones74
2/04/2009
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Ropa you racist pig!!
How are ya!!! |
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By: steve_ropa
2/04/2009
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***Ropa you racist pig!!
How are ya!!!***
if you mean racists against white racists, you're right |
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By: steve_ropa
2/04/2009
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| ferret, just had a look at your profile, so far we have one thing in common, could there be more? |
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By: steve_ropa
2/04/2009
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| many racist people claim that their "race" or culture is superior to others. It might sound a bit strange, but often this belief in superiority is actually caused by fear or even the feeling of inferiority. as written above many people are afraid of people that are different from themselves, and in order to reassure themselves, many people imagine that they are superior to who they are afraid of, so that they don’t have to be afraid anymore. |
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By: dallone.ranger
2/04/2009
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Bt Ropes;
many racist people claim that their "race" or culture is superior to others. It might sound a bit strange, but often this belief in superiority is actually caused by fear or even the feeling of inferiority. as written above many people are afraid of people that are different from themselves, and in order to reassure themselves, many people imagine that they are superior to who they are afraid of, so that they don�t have to be afraid anymore.
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Hey Ropes, did you leave the capital letter off the m at the start of the sentence so it would look like you haven't plagiarised someones else's work? Shame about those funny little boxes in the last sentence too.
Ahhh, Ropes. Like I always say, if nothing else, you are good fun sometimes. |
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By: dallone.ranger
2/04/2009
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By Ferret;
As a Part Aboriginal part Irish dutch english yank kiwi etc I find this disturbing to me and other Bitsas out there.
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Don't know why you would find this disturbing. You describe yourself as a part Aboriginal etc, etc. What is disturbing about that. |
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By: dallone.ranger
2/04/2009
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| And of course Bt Ropes should have been By Ropes. |
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4/04/2009
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By: steve_ropa
4/04/2009
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***After thousands of years all they came up with was a farking stick that comes back when you throw it. Wow so impressive. ***
the first aerodynamic wing, yes very impressive, you lowlife |
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By: saturday4th
4/04/2009
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the first aerodynamic wing, yes very impressive, you lowlife
LOL 40,000 years and they invent a stick that comes back. Fark what useless people they are.
While white people were invented printing what were the c00ns doing ? Throwing a stick.
While white people created beautiful art, what were c00ns doing ? Drawing dots on pieces of bark.
While white people were inventing beautiful clothes, what were the c00ns doing ? Walking around in animal skins.
While white people were creating culture, what were the c00ns doing ? Trading their kids for sex.
The total claim to fame for the Abo's is to invent a stick that comes back. The Egyptians did the same thing but then moved on to bigger and better things. Poor Abo's stuck in the stone age their only purpose is to get stoned and rape their kids. |
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By: steve_ropa
4/04/2009
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white people have invented war, atomic weapons, toxic waste that will be around for thousands of years, caused diseases that kill everyday eg: tobacco and alcohol.
they have invaded numerous countries and killed in the name of a fake god.
they have polluted the world to such an extent that parts of it are uninhabitable.
they have invented weapons of mass destrustion.
decimated whole cultures.
the list goes on
i hope you are proud of being a white man, i'm not |
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