By: dallone.ranger
26/03/2009
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In the NT NEWS today, June Tapp wrote how there has been a constant campaign to discredit all allegations of the prevalence of child abuse in remote communities. Anti-intervention lobbyists promote a story "consensual sex" amongst children for the high rates of sexual abuse and sexually transmitted diseases.
She said, In WA this week, just over the NT border, The Australian newspaper reported that "a culture of rape and cheap sex with children had been broken, with 132 charged with more than 600 offences".
Seventy % of the offenders were adults and 39% of the victims, 12 years or younger.
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It is absurd to think that an imaginary line, the NT/WA border, would mean that remote communities here would be any different to those in WA.
To read the whole story this is the link,
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197 ,25218359-2702,00.html |
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By: pol_pak
26/03/2009
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Thanks: dallone.ranger
Was a good article !
Like so many which really should be printed out then posted on all the notice boards and distributed around to anyone who can read or wants a copy, in all our communities...
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By: dallone.ranger
26/03/2009
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The writer, June Tapp from Katherine, has lived with Aboriginals forever. She lived on Killarney stn with her husband Bill for most of her life and raised her family there. She is a strong advocate for a fair go for Aboriginal women and girls, and she has been around so long she knows it all because the women talk to her, and tell her.
Imagine, that police investigation started just because one woman had the gumption to make the call. Unfortunately most would be unable to, especially when they are a victim under 12 years old, like 39% in that investigation were. |
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By: pol_pak
28/03/2009
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Frustrated when unable get allocated the money to build blocks of smaller single units for singles, particularly teenagers.
Feel IF were able provide enough self contained liveable units - with reasonable rental, would have fewer problems with young ones.
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By: dallone.ranger
28/03/2009
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I understand where you are coming from Pol, however teenagers living together may not be a good answer unless it is in dormitory style accommodation with a responsible adult in charge. In fact I would suggest it was imperative that a responsible adult was supervising, and if that adult had to be white, so be it. After all, who better to teach the socially acceptable way of life in 2009 than someone whose ancestors developed it. Left to their own devices, remote community members seem to have failed in this area.
What do you reckon Pol? |
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By: steve_ropa
28/03/2009
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****teenagers living together may not be a good answer unless it is in dormitory style accommodation with a responsible adult in***
thats already been tried, remember the mission days |
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By: dallone.ranger
28/03/2009
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thats already been tried, remember the mission days
Thought those days worked pretty well, compared to today. |
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By: pol_pak
28/03/2009
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These were NOT for couples !
Sort small self contained single rooms, to feel safe - personal and property. Single bed in room, with door to combo shower and toilet, all with rental around ~25% income with a surcharge for cleaning which could be reduced by time spent on rostered tasks, eg cleaning.
Discussion never made it to supervising...
BTW wanted conventional apartments as well, however single accomodation felt critical with rapidly growing youth. |
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By: dallone.ranger
28/03/2009
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Sort small self contained single rooms, to feel safe - personal and property.
I know exactly what you are saying. Many Aboriginal women, when they come to Darwin, wear as much clothes as they can manage. Dress over dress etc, because they know that when they go home, any clothes/possessions they left behind will likely have disappeared. I have personally bought metal boxes for some with a lock, so as to 'try' and keep some property 'private'. |
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By: pol_pak
28/03/2009
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I found some with wheels ;-)
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By: dallone.ranger
28/03/2009
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| Way to go Pol. |
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By: steve_ropa
29/03/2009
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Rudd would make a great snake-oil seller because for all his lofty words over the past year, his government has begun the biggest and most coordinated attack on the rights of Aboriginal people since the Stolen Generations. Rudd and his modern âprotectorâ of Aborigines, Jenny Macklin, assisted by state and territory governments, have put in place laws and policies that together can only mean one thing for Aboriginal people â cultural genocide.
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By: steve_ropa
29/03/2009
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"For old people the intervention is bringing up bad memories of the past, the old days, the ration days, the dog tag days and the mission daysâ (Womenâs statement from the inaugural Prescribed Area Peopleâs Alliance, 29 September 2008).
Under the Northern Territory Emergency Response (NTER), leases and government business managers have been imposed on prescribed communities.
The only houses built with Intervention funds have been for the business managers, many of which are unoccupied. Only a handful of âprescribedâ communities have been offered funding for housing - and only if they lease their land to the government for 40, 60 or even 90 years." |
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By: steve_ropa
29/03/2009
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Ruddâs Ugly Indigenous Land Grab
The Rudd cabinet is rushing through a national land grab in a proposed compulsory forty year scheme holding Aboriginal communities ransom. In the very week that Australia must answer to the UN in response to human rights complaints of an ongoing nature, latest developments put the plan into perspective and expose the earlier machinations of a comprehensive assault on Indiginous Australia. Howardâs NT
intervention looks more like an entre as Rudd delivers the main course, an all out offensive against the indigenous nations by means of government coercion and withheld supply to assume control of lands for commercial and other âin confidenceâ purposes. As the government sells its doom and gloom messages to an arrested nation, Australian history enters another dark alleyway of secret deals, racism and more layers of questionable legislation in an attempt to control remote communities. |
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While state Aboriginal Lands legislation is being urgently reviewed across the country, there has been no media commentary on either the sudden motivation of these reviews or the apparent synchronisation with NT intervention and several pending Native Title deals in nuclear industry hot-spots. While these issues are being brushed aside, the process of endorsing commercial interests in the equation is being lubricated by a distorted âYESâ campaign. The proposed serial legislation is of highly dubious intent and we need to take a good look at where this road is taking us and start asking serious questions as to why any government would knowingly inflict harm upon âitsâ people. Are we witnessing a mineral war via commercialised legislation feigning legitimacy in what would otherwise be described as acts of acquisition by deception?
Despite the Australian media currently sticking its head in the sand, the issue is fast gathering international media attention as the UN puts the spotlight on human rights abuses in remote Australia. Time will tell if Jenny Macklinâs ill-conceived land grab plan will hold up against international scutiny on both legal and moral grounds.
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Article sourced from Green Left which abridged from National Indigenous Times |
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By: dallone.ranger
29/03/2009
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Disappointed Ropes that you found it necessary to copy and paste someone else's views here. Views, which are in fact nonsense.
Why should the government build any more houses for people if they do not have control of those houses and can demand certain conditions are upheld?
Building houses and giving them away to people who historically have no experience of living in houses, and therefore no idea of the upkeep and maintenance required has clearly not worked. Houses are trashed and their use by date's severely shortened, compared to mainstream home owners, dwellers.
There is no racism here, there is an understanding that some members of the Australian community are just not able to cope as well as some others in 2009. |
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By: dallone.ranger
29/03/2009
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'The Government says it wants the leases so it can control the maintenance of its public houses and offer secure tenure for private businesses'.
What can possibly be wrong with that? No-one is taking anyone's land away from them. It is just scaremongering by some who may feel disenfranchised.
Would like to hear your own personal view on the subject Ropes. The why and why not. |
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By: steve_ropa
29/03/2009
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I heard about the mistrust that had built up, and of researchers who took but did not give, who imposed their own world view, who appropriated Aboriginal people's stories for their own ends, who endlessly described the problems rather than developing and testing solutions, and who used language and methodology in a way that stressed the negatives and neglected the positives. "We're tired of being told that we are helpless, hopeless and useless," one Aboriginal academic told the conference, convened by the Coalition for Research to Improve Aboriginal Health.
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29/03/2009
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i have stated many times on these boards that the federal intervention is nothing more then a land grab.
its pure and simple, no need to launch into a lengthy speech about it, its as plain as day |
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By: steve_ropa
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"who endlessly described the problems rather than developing and testing solutions, and who used language and methodology in a way that stressed the negatives and neglected the positives"
describes you perfectly, lone ranger.
forget about the slanging match, the abuse, and personal jibes, i have only one question for you, why do you hate blackfellas??????? |
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By: dallone.ranger
29/03/2009
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Not at all interested in what the possibly sweet (Aboriginal academic) Melissa has to say Ropes, it's your views I am interested in. And your very brief statement below does just not make the cut here.;
i have stated many times on these boards that the federal intervention is nothing more then a land grab.
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I said;
'The Government says it wants the leases so it can control the maintenance of its public houses and offer secure tenure for private businesses'.
What can possibly be wrong with that? No-one is taking anyone's land away from them. It is just scaremongering by some who may feel disenfranchised.
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If the Federal government wants the land it will just take it, end of story. Just like they removed our right to make euthanasia laws. However they haven't taken any land off anyone, so scaremongering by the sweet Melissa, yourself, and others, stands.
Please give us an example of of this 'land grab' you speak of, considering the intervention has been going on for a couple of years now. |
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By: dallone.ranger
29/03/2009
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By Ropes;
describes you perfectly, lone ranger.
forget about the slanging match, the abuse, and personal jibes, i have only one question for you, why do you hate blackfellas???????
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I see, you seem to have no evidence to support your view about your absurd land grab. So you attempt to restart our previous, as you say;
slanging match, the abuse, and personal jibes.
Is this how you press your argument, your debate?
Could it be that my assertion that those disenfranchised, those who have had a little of their thunder taken away, are at the bottom of this scaremongering? |
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By: pol_pak
29/03/2009
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The term "Cultural Genocide" is appropriate for actions by those who deny our children same skills other Australian children expected to obtain - reading, writing, counting to a competent level of english language.
Like it or not English language is the dominant language in Australia.
These "Cultural Protectors" deny our children their ability to step out into the wider world whenever they want with equality of opportunity.
Condemn them to shame... fear to step out and travel around like other Australians.
The term "Cultural Genocide" is more appropriate, for the culture you profess to support is really what our grandchildren decide worth keeping, NOT what we may wish to protect. |
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By: pol_pak
29/03/2009
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The Green Left and the National Indigenous Times should run a few honest articles on where all the money in the trust funds is going... cause it sure has NOT been going building houses for people in Land Trust communities.
Most Australans when they get title to their land they borrow money to build a house for themselves and their family to live in on it....
Why does this not happen in the ALR(NT) lands.... is it the illusion that someone else will always send us money if we keep begging ?
Is it Toyota's are more important than decent housing ?
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By: pol_pak
29/03/2009
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There is racism here, there is a racism that some members of the Australian community are NOT given chance to demonstrate they can cope as well as others.
The racism here is racism that A* members of the Australan community can NOT adjust to the modern world.
The racism here is that A* members of the Australan community must be protected from selves...
Only those who are A* members of the Australian community who adjusted to the modern world can make decisions for people, 'cause they know better...
Same old arguments, to prevent, to stop, to deny, equality of opportunity, still in 2009.
That is equality of opportunity, not results. |
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