By: steve_ropa 1/03/2009 11:06 am Yahoo! Profile: steve_ropa Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| The most sinister aspect of the Federal Government’s initiative in the Northern Territory is that it is exploiting the abuse of children in order to further undermine Aboriginal rights, with the explicit intention of seizing control of their land. These grossly intrusive measures will ultimately contribute to the continued disempowerment and destruction of Aboriginal people and their ancient cultures. |
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By: steve_ropa 1/03/2009 11:08 am Yahoo! Profile: steve_ropa Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Having worked as a full-time teacher in a remote Aboriginal community I am fully aware of the social dysfunction that is reported regularly in the mainstream media. Minyerri, like so many other communities is entrenched in a sickening cycle of poverty and oppression. A sense of hopelessness and despair is everywhere: from the pathetic state of housing, to the violent shouts and screams of fighting in the middle of the night, to the festering boils and sores on the arms and legs of the eight year olds I tried to teach.
Such a scenario does not suddenly occur. It is the result of generational neglect by government. Aborigines out bush are the forgotten people: the ones we have chosen to ignore simply because they failed to fully assimilate. |
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By: steve_ropa 1/03/2009 11:09 am Yahoo! Profile: steve_ropa Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Now though they find themselves at the centre of a heavy-handed military-style operation which the government claims is an attempt to help children who have been sexually abused.
The Little Children Are Sacred report clearly states, "There is nothing new or extraordinary in the allegations of sexual abuse of Aboriginal children in the Northern Territory." These problems have been around for decades. Aboriginal leaders have warned politicians about the endemic problems of community life and the desperate need to provide adequate housing, education and health services.
Why is the government suddenly hell bent on assisting the people whose cries for help were reduced to whimpering whispers over years and years of inaction? Why now? What is the motivation for focusing so much energy on a problem that has been completely ignored in the past?
Each individual is entitled to their point of view. Perhaps this is a grand act of altruism, but more than likely, in my opinion, it is not. |
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By: steve_ropa 1/03/2009 11:10 am Yahoo! Profile: steve_ropa Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| If the government was sincere in its endeavors to alleviate child abuse then it would actively engage each community in the healing process. One course of action will not suit 60 different environments. Each community faces a different set of circumstances. It is imperative that the government works in conjunction with community elders to try to formulate courses of action that build on cultural strengths, fully incorporating the Aboriginal world view. |
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By: steve_ropa 1/03/2009 11:11 am Yahoo! Profile: steve_ropa Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Tragically, the imagination of our government does not stretch this far. It is incapable of empathising with Aboriginal Australians and that is exactly why we are where we are now. It has stormed into these communities without any long-term plan and without consulting the people whose land they are seizing.
It is implementing bans on alcohol without uttering a word about the need to construct culturally sensitive rehabilitation centers for long-term addicts; it is forcing children to go to schools that are inadequately staffed and woefully resourced; it is restricting the only source of income that parents have to supply their large families with food and other essentials. Most importantly, it is taking control of communal land through the imposition of five-year leases. |
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By: steve_ropa 1/03/2009 11:11 am Yahoo! Profile: steve_ropa Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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How does compulsory acquisition of land have anything to do with helping abused children? It doesn’t.
It does, however, tie in neatly with recent government proposals to store highly toxic radioactive waste at Muckaty, Mt Everard, Harts Range and Fishers Ridge: all Aboriginal communities situated in the Northern Territory. If these proposals are approved then Aboriginal people will have nuclear waste (from Lucas Heights, and possibly European countries) deposited close to their communities. It is obvious this will have a profoundly negative impact on their way of life. Exposure to toxic waste is fatal. The waste dump may contaminate the water these people have to drink, the animals they hunt for food and the plants they use for cooking and bush medicine.
Acquisition of Aboriginal land also provides the government with the perfect opportunity to expand their uranium mining interests. The politicians will say they are creating employment for communities, but it is morally unacceptable to force people to desecrate the land that has nurtured them for thousands of years.
So on one hand the government is using the military to control the communities and ensure that children are no longer sexually abused, while on the other hand it is making plans to use the land on which these children live as a waste dump for highly toxic radioactive material. |
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By: steve_ropa 1/03/2009 11:12 am Yahoo! Profile: steve_ropa Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Support from the public for the government’s radical intervention sadly reflects our ignorance and insensitivity towards Aboriginal cultures. The welfare of children and the empowerment of communities are not truly on the government’s agenda. They have masterfully manipulated this situation to once again serve their own needs. The noose of Aboriginal oppression has been tightened a little more. It is a telling indication of the state of our democracy when the rights of society’s most disadvantaged citizens can be further eroded without a murmur of protest from the majority of our population.
Jonathan Hill July 11, 2007 |
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By: jackraptorofdeath 1/03/2009 11:21 am Yahoo! Profile: jackraptorofdeath Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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society�s most disadvantaged citizens
is it disadvantage or not looking after themselves. that question is in the minds of alot of australians. i grew up in the druitt and dysfunction was everywhere, but my family was STRONG enough to think for ourselves. |
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By: steve_ropa 1/03/2009 11:54 am Yahoo! Profile: steve_ropa Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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****is it disadvantage or not looking after themselves. that question is in the minds of alot of australians. i grew up in the druitt and dysfunction was everywhere, but my family was STRONG enough to think for ourselves.****
the little boy trying to be a man, must be hard being stuck in puberty eh?
***dysfunction was everywhere***
you're certainly right there, white society has a monopoly on dysfunction |
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By: jackraptorofdeath 1/03/2009 11:58 am Yahoo! Profile: jackraptorofdeath Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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white society has a monopoly on dysfunction
ha ha ha ha . mum and dad being p i s s e d all of the time like in alot of aboriginal homes, now that is DYSFUNCTION. who's fault is that. |
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By: steve_ropa 1/03/2009 12:06 pm Yahoo! Profile: steve_ropa Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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****ha ha ha ha . mum and dad being p i s s e d all of the time like in alot of aboriginal homes, now that is DYSFUNCTION. who's fault is that.****
who invaded australia, stole the land, murdered the inhabitants, continue to discriminate and oppress? |
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By: jackraptorofdeath 1/03/2009 12:13 pm Yahoo! Profile: jackraptorofdeath Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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who invaded australia, stole the land, murdered the inhabitants, continue to discriminate and oppress?
i don't know. wasn't me. atleast i don't blame others for being f u c k ups. i take full responsibility for my personal failings. now how about we all start being honest. |
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By: steve_ropa 1/03/2009 12:22 pm Yahoo! Profile: steve_ropa Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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****now how about we all start being honest.****
honesty is a concept that has alluded you |
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By: jackraptorofdeath 1/03/2009 12:29 pm Yahoo! Profile: jackraptorofdeath Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| what was dishonest about what i wrote ropa. i'm one of the more honest posters on here. |
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By: pol_pak 1/03/2009 1:15 pm Yahoo! Profile: pol_pak Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Re: who invaded australia, stole the land, murdered the inhabitants, continue to discriminate and oppress?
Those who purportedly invaded have been dead for a long time.
Those who purportedly stole the land have been dead for a long time... as are those who purportedly did/not object to the change of ownership.
Those who purportedly murdered were mostly tried by their peers, and both them and those who judged them have been dead for a long time.
Those purportedly benefit from changes during past 200 years clearly for long time recognised and attempted to compensate those believed were disadvantaged.
Question is what these disadvantaged done, are doing, to improve things for themselves ?
Definitely we still exist those wishing to discriminate !
Those racists still busy arguing people generally, Australians in particular, need be treated differently on basis of racial testing.
How will treating Australians differently by racial testing personally benefit them.... whilst punishing those who fail these new racial tests...
Most find such repugnant, as heard it all before !
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By: pol_pak 1/03/2009 1:19 pm Yahoo! Profile: pol_pak Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Whilst the land councils and land trusts deny the intended beneficiaries of the ALR(NT) leases for their homes because leases would give them rights, rights like the right to have family and friends visit them in their homes... |
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By: steve_ropa 1/03/2009 2:15 pm Yahoo! Profile: steve_ropa Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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****what was dishonest about what i wrote ropa. i'm one of the more honest posters on here.****
is that why you keep changing your id |
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By: steve_ropa 2/03/2009 2:09 pm Yahoo! Profile: steve_ropa Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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***Hypocrisy at it's best. What will we do without Ropes for a laugh, if he ever leaves us?***
is that the best you can do? your lack of constructive opinions on the topic only proves your lack of knowledge on any subject other than you racists opinions.
you really are a poor excuse for a man |
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By: fishman9565 2/03/2009 2:20 pm Yahoo! Profile: fishman9565 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| well this wouldn't be necessary if the aboriginal people stopped the monsters in there communities from committing sexual and physical abuse of there children. |
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By: fishman9565 2/03/2009 2:25 pm Yahoo! Profile: fishman9565 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Such a scenario does not suddenly occur. It is the result of generational neglect by government. Aborigines out bush are the forgotten people: the ones we have chosen to ignore simply because they failed to fully assimilate.
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What A load of BS ....the money the government pumps into these communities is more than enough to enable these people to build and maintain better communities for all who live there,tell me why ATSIC has been disbanded? |
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By: fishman9565 2/03/2009 2:29 pm Yahoo! Profile: fishman9565 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| tell me how many ATSIC elders have been removed because the money was ..lets say being used inappropriatly?..Please tell. |
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By: pol_pak 2/03/2009 3:05 pm Yahoo! Profile: pol_pak Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Separate development from the rest of Australia has been the mantra coming from those feeding upon the ATSIC industry.
Generational neglect flows from government refusal -under advice from those feeding upon ATSIC industry, to ignore long developed policy like to set, maintain and enforce the widely accepted basic standards expected in schools, towards education all our children for the real, modern, world we all operates within.
Usual garbage about how being A you are not needing to operate in the modern world, with encouragement to believe we are still living in "Traditional" manner.
Most people long ago gave up "Traditional" subsistence hunting and gathering, much preferring to go hunting in the local store.
Agree the money government pumps into these communities is more than enough to enable people to build and maintain better communities for all who live there.
ATSIC was disbanded because it failed to improve the stamdard of living in communities, instead it managed the degrading, the reduction of standards of living, by allowing the development to be seconded to the rhetorical arguments.
The ATSIC approach failed to train people to improve things, training beggars to beg louder did not improve things.
The ATSIC approach obstructed, prevented, the building of competitive markets within the communities.
Those who promoted the ATSIC approach obstructive, preventative approach towards building competitive markets within communities are still very busy, still trying to obstruct progress from occurring...
Most communities [pop 200+] would fare much better with at least two competing stores... even once communist China agrees competition lowers cost of living.
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By: fishman9565 2/03/2009 3:19 pm Yahoo! Profile: fishman9565 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| thank you...I rest my case.ATSIC= corruption in the highest form,parasites praying of there own people. |
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By: steve_ropa 2/03/2009 5:40 pm Yahoo! Profile: steve_ropa Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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****What A load of BS ....the money the government pumps into these communities is more than enough to enable these people to build and maintain better communities for all who live there,****
ever lived in a remote aboriginal community.
how do you know how much money is "pumped" into communities, i do, very little, not enough to maintain a healthy life style. do you know the cost of living in remote aboriginal communities, i do, extremely high. do you know about the overcrowded housing, a four bedroom house averages around 20 residents. most remote aboriginal communities are below the standard of third world countries.
most aboriginal people would like to live in mainstream australia, but what stops them is the ignorant racists like you |
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