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By: dallone.ranger
10/02/2009
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Just a few days after being demoted from Education, Marion Scrymgour has announced she is too sick to continue as a minister, however will remain as a backbencher.
She certainly stuffed up big time by sacking Department head Margaret Banks, and the other day blaming headmasters for children not attending school. She has also come a cropper in the past and her transgressions outweigh her contributions.
She should resign completely, however must stay to give NT Labor the numbers to pass their legislation. I doubt very much whether she wants to stay under her circumstances, however is, at last, being faithful to the party.
Having said that I wouldn't wish cancer on anybody after witnessing it's debilitating effects on my, now deceased, father recently.
I wish her a speedy recovery and hope she can throw off the cancer demon.

By: dallone.ranger
4/06/2009
4:37 pm

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And today she quit the Labor Party altogether.

I don't believe her intentions are as she states. I think she just wants to get right out of politics. I also think she may be suffering from depression and doesn't know it. And as an independent she can now confront her critics without worrying about following the party line.

No Labor majority anymore. I see there are already calls to start a Ab party. Maurie Ryan said he was going to, some years ago, but it never got off the ground.
The problem with one is that the hard decisions will never be taken, ever. Status quo forever. But pollies will still get paid.

By: dallone.ranger
4/06/2009
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It's also worth mentioning that Maurie's party was going to be called the Ab and Ethnic Party, or something similar.

Definitely a loser.

By: pol_pak
6/06/2009
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Natasha Robinson presents an interesting explanation:
Subplot thickens for Marion Scrymgour
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197 ,25592431-5006790,00.html

---start extract---
The power clique that surrounded Scrymgour -- and exercised a hold over the Government's policy direction -- was purged in February, when the former deputy chief minister quit the front bench.

The careers of Scrymgour's former chief of staff Jamie Gallagher and her former senior policy adviser Chips Mackinolty, men who have to a large extent controlled the NT's policy direction in indigenous affairs for a decade, were crippled.

The handover of Scrymgour's indigenous affairs portfolio to central Australian politician Alison Anderson represented a changing of the guard, a break with what commonwealth bureaucracies have regarded as the bottleneck of old Labor that served to thwart the implementation of federal initiatives in indigenous affairs at every turn.

But it was not just the political stocks of two men that fell when Scrymgour stepped down from the front bench in February for health reasons. The well-oiled machine of Darwin politics had abruptly malfunctioned; suddenly the reference points had shifted for an entire social network made up of magistrates, coroners, journalists, lawyers and political backroom dealers, whose bonds had been forged as much by alcohol as by political belief.

---end extract---

Well worth the read...

By: pol_pak
6/06/2009
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Re Maurie's party

Several attempts to start an Ab party, almost always those disgruntled not getting what they want through other party structures due personal failings which they not prepared to accept so latch onto the racial tags for convenience.


Racists thrive on such attempts, supporting the disorder they bring which feeds racism.


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By: pol_pak
6/06/2009
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Marion Scrymgour's split with Labor came after a dispute over policy on Aboriginal issues including outstations, town camps, and what future choices children are to have.


This battle is represented as withing the government, yet is also happening in the community.


Long term the Centrelink based lifestyle approach has not produced results needed, and the money to keep fostering this approach is not there.



Cash royalties paid to "Traditional Owners" long ignored are being reviewed.

Royalties will NOT stop, as they are partly compensation.

Expect these to soon be considered when assessing recipients taxable income, including Centrelink as is done with workers compensation payments.



We are seeing generational changes, those who survived the past 30 years party mode with its failure to produce expected results, now rising to try achieve gains frequently ignored because they required actually building foundations upon which further construction can be based, for things that will last...


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By: pol_pak
6/06/2009
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Posted by Antony Green on June 04, 2009 at 11:59 PM in Northern Territory Elections

Northern Territory Political Crisis http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2009/06/northe rn-territ.html

---deletion---

The government's new policy on indigenous affairs is a major departure from past policy. It will be a major matter for debate in the Henderson government and one set to create division within the Labor Party rather than create a new divide with the opposition. It looks set to be an interesting time in Northern Territory politics.

---END of article---



Comment: yes, interesting times.


Also be interesting to see comparison of circumstances for people living in communities and rural properties of SA and WA where similar/equivalent to NT "outstations" and communities.


The Commonwealth surely conducted such assessments, so are they being hidden ?


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By: unidentifiedbloke
30/07/2009
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Things are getting even more interesting in NT politics. If Alison Anderson resigns too; Hendo is stuffed.

We could be going to the polls shortly....

Could we see Millsy and the CLP in government before Christmas?

By: dallone.ranger
30/07/2009
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31/07/2009
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Not sure what I said yesterday which it required being censored, perhaps it was a comment on future preselected candidates.

If so all I would have said is that the NT Labor Party has had a shitload of trouble with it's part Ab members.

That's a fact.

And that in future, both parties may steer clear of any group, which in the past, has shown itself to be immature and untrustworthy.

By: unidentifiedbloke
4/08/2009
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"And that in future, both parties may steer clear of any group, which in the past, has shown itself to be immature and untrustworthy."

Imagine a political party that didn't have anyone in it that was either immature or untrustworthy? We can only hope for such a thing.

In any case, I hope we are going to the polls shortly. It would be good to see a few of our pollies get their badly needed boot up the proverbial. Bring it on!!!

By: dallone.ranger
4/08/2009
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Imagine a political party that didn't have anyone in it that was either immature or untrustworthy? We can only hope for such a thing.

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Can't imagine we will ever achieve a political party without having a few incompetents amongst the members.

However, my point was that in this case it is a single group, and all of them fit that bill.

Their tantrums, and dishonesty to their party, make them stand out like dogs testimonials.

I do believe there will be fewer on the ground after the next election. Unless of course a party based on racial lines arises. In which case we could then expect to see a whole party of incompetents.

By: unidentifiedbloke
4/08/2009
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Might not be time for a new "racial" party to form. Anderson has just quit the ALP and the newspaper suggests we might be back at the polls within weeks.

It will be interesting to see just how this next election pans out. Bring it on!!!

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4/08/2009
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If only. Latest is that Scrymgour has returned to Labor;

August 4th, 2009

MARION Scrymgour has rejoined the Labor Party.

Chief Minister Paul Henderson announced Ms Scrymgour had rejoined his team after the pair met for about three hours this afternoon.

Her decision to rejoin the party followed fellow indigenous MLA Alison Anderson's announcement this morning that she had quit Labor.

As reported earlier Ms Scrymgour walked into Parliament House just after midday for a meeting with Mr Henderson.

"I have always supported the Labor Government," she said.

Asked about Ms Anderson's defection, Ms Scrymgour said: "It was always a matter of when, not if."

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4/08/2009
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Musical chairs was never as much fun as this.

I think the gist of my previous comments is well reflected in these latest events.

By: unidentifiedbloke
5/08/2009
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Houdini Hendo escapes!!!

Territory politics would be hilarious if this nonsense were'nt true......I wonder if these clowns think they have any credibility left?

Roll on the next election.

By: dallone.ranger
5/08/2009
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And I think we can throw the Darwin city council in with the 'clowns' description. I can't imagine how any person who thinks he can keep cane toads out of Darwin could ever become the mayor. The lunacy starts at the top.

For that matter I'm not too sure about the Litchfield Shire council either anymore.

By: unidentifiedbloke
5/08/2009
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Well, not too sure there was much of choice for the voters in Darwin. There were some quite loopy candidates for mayor, for sure.

Litchfield Shire hasn't been the same since Gerry left for bigger things. It could do with a bit of a shake up too I think. Trouble is, it always seems to be the oddbods who want to get into politics. Hard to find any really decent pollies anywhere these days. I think we end up having to choose the best from a bad bunch.

I suppose recent goings on have really shown us the true colors of some of the pretenders. Looking forward to the next chance to vote; bring it on!!!

By: dallone.ranger
5/08/2009
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Funny thing is that Gerry could end up running the whole shebang the way things are going.

Anyway, my laptop has a mechanical problem which requires attention down in Sydney, so once it is picked up I won't be around as often. About a month they say.
Couple of years ago I had never even touched one, today I can't imagine not having it here. Oh well, it's up to the library for a while it seems.

By: dallone.ranger
9/08/2009
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Well my laptop is on it's way down south with the courier, however one of the kids had a spare one and loaned it to me. It runs Windows XP Professional instead of Vista which mine has.
It took me a while to get reconnected to the 'net and I could only do with an ethernet cable, rather than wireless. The result is that when I click Reply or Preview or Post Reply, it takes ages to perform.
Anyway it's probably because I do not know what I'm doing regarding the set up. Better than driving to Palmerston Library though to use a computer.

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9/08/2009
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That last post took over 40 seconds to send.

By: dallone.ranger
11/08/2009
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TWO powerful indigenous organisations have declared war on rebel politician Alison Anderson, claiming she is pursuing her own agenda by trying to bring down Labor.

The Northern Land Council yesterday called on Ms Anderson to resign, as her "selfish" unparliamentary behaviour had caused instability and chaos.

And the Laynhapuy Homelands Association accused the former Indigenous Affairs Minister of using Aboriginal disadvantage to push her own agenda.

NLC chief executive Kim Hill seized upon Ms Anderson's recent claim that the federal government should take over Territory politics.

"Ms Anderson has effectively said that Territorians cannot govern their own affairs - yet she continues to be a member of the parliament," he said.

Mr Hill - a former adviser to the Territory Government - said the NLC's attack was not orchestrated by the "Labor Machine".

"This is about chaos. She caused deliberate NT chaos," he said.

Laynhapuy Homelands Association chief executive Yananymul Mununggurr said Ms Anderson was "playing her own political game, just for her own purpose".

"She is not up there for the Aboriginal people. She is certainly not up there for my people. Because she doesn't listen to us. She has never consulted us," she said.

But Ms Anderson dismissed the criticisms of both organisations.

She said Kim Hill was a Labor man - and he should declare his conflict of interest.

"The NLC doesn't hurt me one little bit," she said.

Ms Anderson said the Laynhupuy Homelands attack did not come from Galarrwuy Yunupingu.

Ms Mununggurr said it was "disgraceful and embarrassing" Aboriginals were being used as political footballs "this time by an indigenous woman determined to bring down a government".

By: dallone.ranger
11/08/2009
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Kim Hill has got to be the best endorsement Allison Anderson has ever had.
When the Northern Land Council denounces someone, you know they are scared of them, and Allison seems to have them shitting in their pants.

Loved it where Hill said;
"Ms Anderson has effectively said that Territorians cannot govern their own affairs - yet she continues to be a member of the parliament."

He seems to forget that the land councils existence supports the belief that Ab' people themselves cannot manage their own affairs.

And isn't it grand to hear Kim worrying about white Territorians too.
Pity he never thought about them when wearing his NLC chief exectutive's hat and participating in the exclusion of white people from fishing the NT
coast. Not to mention wanting to keep white people out of Ab' communities, and even stop them from talking to Ab people, through reinstating the permit system.
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