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By: givemeanidnow_03
21/03/2009
9:10 pm

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"potentially" unless men way back then gave birth

This really does prove your total lack of understanding of the whole issue and the science involved. Genetics scientists used the male chromosome because using current technology it's easier to identify the characteristics passed down from father to son then it is from mother to daughter. They use the word "potentially" because there is still a large amount of work to be done to confirm the original findings.

Again might I suggest you try and do some reading on the topic instead of making idiotic statements

By: steve_ropa
21/03/2009
9:28 pm

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***I really shouldn't have expected any better from Yahoo.***
if you feel so opposed to yahoo, what are you doing here?

By: dallone.ranger
21/03/2009
9:34 pm

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Again I repost this reply of mine to Ropable, who so far has been unable to find fault with it. I would add that I personally do not care one iota whether early humans were black, white, brown, etc etc. It is only Ropes who feels he has to find something negative for white people. He doesn't realise we really do not care one way or the other.

OK Ropes, I'll have a go.
Firstly, where is this scientific evidence which you say;
""points to the fact that the earliest people were black?""
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There is no way that I am aware of which scientists are able to tell the skin colour of 'Lucy', and those who came after her or before her.

What you are supposing/presuming, is that the first human types were black, from the word go, because those today from Africa are black. I think this is unsupportable scientifically. There is no more reason to think that they were black, than they were white. Were they white originally, they would have evolved darker skin over time to counter the climatic conditions which prevailed. Of course if the area where human types evolved was colder back in those days, millions of years ago, than it is today, then whiter skins would not be out of place. On the other hand if they began whiter, they would just have evolved darker skin if the climate at the time warranted it.
As for Jesus, he was probably the colour Arabs are today. 2,000 years is probably not long enough for evolution to make much difference. Also, back in his day they wore robes as they do today, so the sun was not such an issue as it was for those living in sub Sahara Africa at the time who were naked and black, like our Aboriginals.

By: steve_ropa
21/03/2009
9:36 pm

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interesting site

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/430944.stm

By: dallone.ranger
21/03/2009
9:51 pm

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Yes, I note the date is 1999, 10 years ago. So in the years since that hypothesis, has there been any other scientific research done which extrapolates on that work?

By: dallone.ranger
21/03/2009
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Now please explain why Lucy, over 3 million years ago, must have been black, and where is the scientific evidence to support the claim.
And I reiterate, I have no problem whatsoever whether she and her ancestors were black, white, brown, etc.

By: givemeanidnow_03
22/03/2009
8:19 am

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if you feel so opposed to yahoo, what are you doing here?

Trying to have an intelligent discussion. Obviously isn't going to be successful with you.

By: givemeanidnow_03
22/03/2009
8:25 am

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interesting site

Is this what you are basing you opinions on, a ten year old news article LOL.

This theory was shot down years ago using archelogical evidence from the States. Perhaps you need to find more up to date information. Something from this decade would be good

By: givemeanidnow_03
22/03/2009
9:14 am

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cave painting in the north of WA have been carbon dated to be as old as 70,000 years old,

Emailed an Archologist mate of mine about this. He is very interested in finding out the source of the claim. Would like either the scientific journal or even the name of the newspaper where the claim was made. Can you please provide ????

By: steve_ropa
22/03/2009
9:34 am

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as i stated before, of all the dark skinned people of the world, the australian aboriginal is ethnically closest to the white races.
this fact has been ignored by the armchair experts here.
i think its a very significant point, any opinions?

By: givemeanidnow_03
22/03/2009
9:51 am

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i think its a very significant point, any opinions?

yes I would like to see something backing this up other then your opinion. How about a link or something useful

By: steve_ropa
22/03/2009
11:28 am

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****yes I would like to see something backing this up other then your opinion. How about a link or something useful****

do exactly as i did, google it
there are plenty of sites that will enlighten you
and its not solely my opinion, its fact, but most white people will dismiss it as false because of their racist nature.
another fact, australia is the most racists country in the world

By: givemeanidnow_03
22/03/2009
11:47 am

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do exactly as i did, google it

Ah goggle it !! the standard response for people who get asked to provide evidence when they made idiotic statements.

In other words your whole theory is based on nothing more then waking up in the morning and thinking "What stupid statements should I make today"

Maybe people are dismissing it as false because there is no scientific evidence to support the claim ?

BTW still waiting on some reference to your other claim about the 70,000 year old cave art LOL

By: steve_ropa
22/03/2009
11:54 am

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****Ah goggle it !! the standard response for people who get asked to provide evidence when they made idiotic statements.

In other words your whole theory is based on nothing more then waking up in the morning and thinking "What stupid statements should I make today"

Maybe people are dismissing it as false because there is no scientific evidence to support the claim ?

BTW still waiting on some reference to your other claim about the 70,000 year old cave art LOL****

if you dispute MY argument, then provide evidence against it.
smart a r s e flippant comments dont cut it

By: steve_ropa
22/03/2009
11:56 am

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maybe the thought that you are related to the indigenous population of australia is clouding your thought process

By: givemeanidnow_03
22/03/2009
11:58 am

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if you dispute MY argument, then provide evidence against it.

Hmm tactic number two. When you have no proof try and put it back onto someone else to prove. Grow up little man it's obvious you have no idea what you are talking about. Now run alone and post in the Home & Away section, it's probably more your level of intelligence.

By: givemeanidnow_03
22/03/2009
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maybe the thought that you are related to the indigenous population of australia is clouding your thought process

Same could be said for you. I have no problems if it can be proven that I'm related to them. If you had bothered to read my posts you would know I haven't expressed an opinion on this one way or the other.

All you are trying to do is divert people away from your moronic statements, which you obviously can't back up.

By: steve_ropa
22/03/2009
12:20 pm

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are you one of them bible thumpers who think that the world is only 6000 years old?

By: steve_ropa
22/03/2009
12:23 pm

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if you are the member of a religion that believes the story of adam and eve, or noah and flood, then surely you realize that everyone on this earth comes from a few people. thus, since we are all from the same few original human beings, we are all related, and all the same race - the human race, we're just all different shades.

By: dallone.ranger
22/03/2009
1:12 pm

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On another site, Ropes advised that he was once a member of a religious cult. Now, his constant references to religion, especially when he is losing an argument, suggest he still holds dear all it stands for. He hopes he can swing the discussion around to religion when he has no answers because he is so enmeshed in it. Certainly a closet god botherer of the highest order.

By: dallone.ranger
22/03/2009
1:14 pm

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By Ropes, showing us his journalistic skill once again;

if you are the member of a religion that believes the story of adam and eve, or noah and flood
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The member? Surely there would be others who hold those religious views.

By: steve_ropa
22/03/2009
2:42 pm

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i should have known you're one of those mis-guided sheep brained fools who believe the myth of a god. the idiots who believe the world was created 6000 years ago, those who cant face the inevitability of death, so they create a mythical figure because they cant face the reality of life.
you may find comfort in Bob Dylan's words "when i die i'm going to heaven because i spent my life in hell"

By: steve_ropa
22/03/2009
2:46 pm

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"if you are the member of a religion that believes the story of adam and eve, or noah and flood"

and now do you want to crucify me because of a typo.
delete "the" insert "a"
satisfied, lone ranger
i dont want to upset your grammatically perfect world

By: steve_ropa
22/03/2009
2:52 pm

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and what about your mate pol pak, just because he's kissing your a r s e i dont see you correcting him

bloody hypocrite

By: dallone.ranger
22/03/2009
3:16 pm

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By Ropes, perchance a tad upset that no one seems to ever agree with his drivel;

and what about your mate pol pak, just because he's kissing your a r s e i dont see you correcting him

bloody hypocrite
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Pol Pak uses punctuation and has never made any claim to any journalistic credentials, unlike yourself. Pol has a pretty good grasp of English however I expect it is not his first language.
What's your bloody excuse?
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