By: antago.nist
8/05/2008
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Anybody else out there aware of the reluctance by doctors and psychs to listen to any criticism of these drug? Is their ignorance of its diabolical side effects genuine ignorance, or genuine ignorance? Do they prefer to just take it for granted that the pharma reps are telling the truth? In america, the package has to carry a "High Suicide Risk" black label warning. Same tablet, same dose, but in Australia there is no suicide risk?
Why have i been on twice the manufacturer's recommended maximum safe dose?
Why is a drug that causes a higher propensity towards suicidal thinking and behaviour prescribed for depression patients?
Why do most doctors laugh off the side effects and worse....the withdrawal effects, which start within an hour of missing my dose?
Worrying and dealing with the daily side effects has served to make me more depressed, and now I am addicted to this stuff at 300mg a day (was on 450mg day for 18mths.)
WYETH.... Please explain. |
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By: oggster8606
8/05/2008
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"Anybody else out there aware of the reluctance by doctors and psychs to listen to any criticism of these drug?"
I think you'll find that the bulk of psychiatrists think Efexor is a complete joke. Most believe that its benefits are minimal at best. Doctors are given incentives to prescribe it by the company that makes it. |
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By: buzzanddidj
8/05/2008
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Short-term studies did not show an increase in the risk of suicidality with antidepressants compared to placebo in adults beyond age 24; there was a reduction in risk with antidepressants compared to placebo in adults aged 65 and older. Depression and certain other psychiatric disorders are themselves associated with increases in the risk of suicide
http://www.drugs.com/pro/venlafaxine.html
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By: antago.nist
8/05/2008
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buzzanddidj
do you take efexor? just the 'withdrawal syndrome' would be enough to push SOME people over the edge.
who funded the studies? |
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By: antago.nist
8/05/2008
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| AND....the whole point of giving drugs to someone who MAY be in a high risk category for suicide is? surely to lessen the risk? how can it be that prescription of this stuff is allowed? who is hoodwinking who? sure i believe in businesses making money, but surely we must draw the line when it comes to putting people at risk for the sake of sales? |
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By: buzzanddidj
8/05/2008
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'buzzanddidj
do you take efexor?'
By: antago.nist
No
I was given the drug fluoxetine (Prozac), in early trials in the '80's
The two drugs are related, and come with the same side effects
As I was being studied I was warned and monitered for side effects, probably more than patients are today
As for studies on suicidal odds of the medicaton vs placebo ?
I'm not sure WHO conducted them, but my medicos said much the same as the study result I posted
I guess we're all different
I had a few headaches, sore muscles and sweats occasionally, and that was all
No withdrawal noticable
Depression gone while on Prozac, but returned about a year after ceasing
It didn't work on the second course
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By: buzzanddidj
8/05/2008
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I have noticed the two drugs have a few differences
Effexor XR, a once-daily formulation of the antidepressant Effexor (venlafaxine HCl), received U.S. Food and Drug Administration market clearance for the treatment of depression in 1997, and market clearance for the treatment of generalized anxiety disorder (GAD) in 1999. Effexor XR is the only antidepressant currently indicated to treat depression and GAD. Unlike SSRIs (e.g., Prozac), which selectively inhibit the reuptake of the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain, Effexor XR inhibits the reuptake of both serotonin and norepinephrine.
http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/16379a.htm
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By: tessasorrel
17/05/2008
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| I take Efexor and in higher doses than any of you mention. I will happily take it all my life if necessary. I am suicidal continually without medication. Having tried many different antidepressants and other treatments Efexor is the most effective treatment thus far. yes a get suicidal days, but hey that's loads better than the suicidal weeks, months and years i had to try & drag thru. prior to this. Have a bit of balance about the way you look at medication. Noone ever states they are the be all & end all of treatment, but the benefit they give most people who are on them outway the side effects - and before you get on your bandwaggon. i do know what i am talking about! I am also a highly qualified nurse who isn't easily hoodwinked! good luck in finding the perfect treatment that has no side effects and down days!!! Wake up! |
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By: cenasangel2008
17/05/2008
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| In my hummble and unbiased opinion i think effexor is absolutely *** and should be banned from human consumption. It is old and outdated and the suicide risk is just not worth it. |
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By: szuregotjeanz
17/05/2008
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It's a terrible drug!!............extreme ly hard to get off of!!!
There was, maybe still is, a thread about it in the "health section"
Anyone about to take that cr@p should read THAT thread over!!! |
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By: leeethal2
17/05/2008
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1. Get connected to those who love you
2. Clean up your diet, and really clean it up, no grog no drugs, and only home cooked food with nothing pre prepared
3. Get regular excercise, and at least 4 hours a week
4. Get regular sleep, you might need more than usual when you are depressed, go with it.
5. See if you still need this cr@p. |
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By: chat_multibillionairebillgates
17/05/2008
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o.k Thanks for that.
As am far as I am aware they are a brand of anti depressants. |
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By: gwcubbon
18/05/2008
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Well it's obvious from all these comments that you people must be on the wrong medication or you have been incorrectly diagnosed.
My wife is on EFEXOR and suffers no known ill effects from it.
She is also on Epilim for her bi-polar.
It took me about 5 years and 4 different type of antidepressants to get to the right one for me.
I'm now taking LOVAN as it is the best suited to my condition of PTSD. |
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By: blueeyesnanaau
18/05/2008
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I am on Efexor-XR and I have found no problems with it. I have found not problems at all. I take mine, 75mg. at nite time before bed and I find it helps me to sleep. I was on Lovan before this but it did not help my Depression. When I mention the word DEPRESSION people look at more as though I have just said a rude word. Y? it is no difference to the common cold. I have been on this medication now for 3 years.
I am a 73 yo pensioner and my depression began in January 2001 when my husband passed away with cancer but because my prev. doctor charges me $50.00 a visit, which I could not afford, I joined up with a new doctor and to me he is the best thing since sliced bread. |
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By: szuregotjeanz
19/05/2008
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antago.nist....ok, I'll give you just ONE reason not to take it.
Don't know about men, but, for women, it takes away your sex drive. Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule......but, I was on it, and knew plenty of other women with same side effect
Really, i highly suggest you look for that thread in the health section! |
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By: tessasorrel
22/05/2008
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| leethal2 you sooooooo obviously don't have depression or you would never assume that these things u mentioned will "cure" it without the assistance of medication. i find your assumtions and presumptions really offensive. Like i say you just don't have depression! |
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By: antago.nist
22/05/2008
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szuregotjeanz.....oh yeah...it does take away the old libido and for somebody like myself who has NEVER had a problem in this area it has been quite distressing at times.
I'm sure most GPs don't know enough about it to be objective, they just do as they are told. |
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By: lab1072
4/06/2008
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| I too was on efexor but got off it after a few months the reason being that i suffered withdrawral symptoms within hours if i missed my dose.I have never had an epilectic fit but felt like i was going to have one plus they didnt help my depression.My doctor wanted me to stay on them but i refused and went back onto zoloft, which works fine for me. |
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By: binj.again
4/06/2008
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everyone reacts differently to different drugs. It's a matter of working with your doctor to find the right treatment for you.
Just because one person has a bad reaction to a given drug doesn't mean the drug is of no use to others. |
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By: binj.again
4/06/2008
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"I think you'll find that the bulk of psychiatrists think Efexor is a complete joke. Most believe that its benefits are minimal at best"
Where do you get that information from? |
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By: binj.again
4/06/2008
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"do you take efexor? just the 'withdrawal syndrome' would be enough to push SOME people over the edge. "
I do. I avoid the withdrawal symptoms by taking my drugs (300mg) at the same time every day..... as one is advised to do.
I am on a combination of effexor, a calcium channel blocker and a beta-blocker as preventatives for a severe migraine disorder.
Side effects are a trade off for the treatment of the condition for which you're taking the drugs in the first place.
If you're not happy with your treatment and if you don't think it is doing you any good, discuss it with your doctor. You don't have to accept treatment against your will.
Effexor can be discontinued by slowly decreasing the dose over a number of weeks/months. Valium helps with the withdrawal syndrome.
You need to be involved in your own recovery. The doctors can't do it for you.
Too many people also think that a tablet will magically cure all their problems. This is never the case. You need to change how you think to recover. Counselling and/or cognitive behaviour therapy are usually used in conjunction with drug treatment. Talk to your doctor. If your doctor won't discuss it with you, get a new doctor. Find one that suits you. It's your health. |
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By: binj.again
4/06/2008
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"See if you still need this cr@p."
The world is a cr@p place.
I think anyone who can live in it and NOT get depressed is the one who is abnormal. |
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By: magicpants31
5/06/2008
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Relax binj...life's meant to be experienced and enjoyed :)
Life is way too precious and short to do anything else with..yeah?
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By: leeethal2
5/06/2008
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leethal2 you sooooooo obviously don't have depression or you would never assume that these things u mentioned will "cure" it without the assistance of medication. i find your assumtions and presumptions really offensive. Like i say you just don't have depression!
No I didn't say some people don't need it, just that I have a chronic illness, and Doctor's DO over prescribe, I wasn't meaning to be offensive, and probably should have posted a little differently... I know some people can't control their emotions without medication, I know because a close friend and two of my brothers suffer in this way, they would not be th same without medication. |
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