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By: never_knew_that
16/05/2008
9:09 pm

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My son is 6yrs in July, he started school in prep this year. He is quite small for his age, although he is the actual oldest in his class he would be just about the smallest including the girls! Anyway yesterday when I picked him up from his classroom his teacher spoke to me about the fact he alledgally bit a girl, she apparently was holding on to him very tightly not letting him go, he couldn't break free so he bit her..... This is something he has never done & the teacher didn't seem alarmed, so I took it that the girl shared in the incident equally. When I looked at my son he had something which I thought was dirt all over his face & up his arms. Another little girl in his class actually said he had had a bleeding nose at playtime. When we got home I asked him what had happened, he said that another bigger (in size) had pushed him over face down hitting his nose & causing the bleeding... When I asked him if the teacher on duty tended to him, he said that she told him to go and wash his face, apparently another prep girl helped him. I as a Mother saw "red" so to speak, so I rang the vice principal, told him I wasn't happy that no teacher had helped him he just fobbed me off as that can't be right & children make up stories. Now tonight he has just told us the same boy today tied him to a monkey bar with the string on his hat & pushed him down & said "we don't want skinny runts here".....
So I guess as a parent I am asking if anyone else has any advice on where I should start to resolve this situation before something unforseen happens??????

By: dassaultmirage5
16/05/2008
9:14 pm

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Get a lawyer to send a letter to the school principal - and wash the principal change his tune then.

By: dassaultmirage5
16/05/2008
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*watch

By: dior.kiss
16/05/2008
9:24 pm

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... Of course kiddies make things up. But that's not reason to dismiss this, and the Principal should have known better.

I think you should keep the dates of when your son has claimed to have been bullied (also find out the other child's name too if possible). Every time he makes these claims, you should tell the class teacher and if you get no response, call the principle. If it happens at school again encourage your son to take himself, and a witness, to the teacher and 'dob' on the other child.

If he really is being bullied, and they're ignoring it, you will need to go higher. Like you said, he is a small little tacker, and therefore probably easier to be picked on. Plus he is only starting out at school and doesn't need the added stress.

By: never_knew_that
16/05/2008
9:40 pm

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The hard part about it is that he sometimes doesn't realise when a kid is playing or picking on him.... We were at a BBQ one day & there were 2 older boys there as well, they were quite rough kids in their mannerisms, but anyway they had my son in the corner bouncing a very large hard ball on his head, he thought they were just playing with him..... I then followed them & the bigger one stuck his foot out & tripped our kid, the boy turned around saw me & I didn't even have to say a word he turned & ran...... But our son just tried to keep up with him..... How do you gently warn your children of these sorts of probs?????

By: icantfindmyteeth
16/05/2008
10:06 pm

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Geez that is shocking ! Thats beyond 'normal' bullying , I would get help outside the school if they are not going to listen . You have witnessed how easy your child can be bullied , so I'd definately believe him and take it seriously . Good luck :)

By: never_knew_that
16/05/2008
10:12 pm

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He is changing now I think too, he began such naughty behaviour last night that we couldn't believe he was our son...... Is this just life, is it sink or swim?
I have had him to several DRs he is only 51kgs or so, still wears size 1 shorts..... Gosh my heart is aching with the thought that he will always be the underdog.... Don't get me wrong I don't want some brazen little child that no one wants to know either, just want my boy to stay safe!!!!

By: never_knew_that
16/05/2008
10:12 pm

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sorry I meant 15kgs

By: never_knew_that
16/05/2008
10:13 pm

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51kgs in my dreams, I have my doubts he will reach that in adulthood

By: icantfindmyteeth
16/05/2008
10:23 pm

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Theres several kids at my kids' school that are as small as you described your son . Do the doctors do tests or just say he's tiny , nothing to worry about ?

By: never_knew_that
16/05/2008
10:28 pm

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Well basically they take a look & say he is active not lethagic, they then go on to say kids can be picky eaters, there's nothing to worry about.....

By: reidsays
16/05/2008
10:35 pm

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NKT....has your boy socialised much in a large group of other children??

perhaps with school and the realities you need to sit and talk to him about 'gut feelings'.....that not all children are friendly, infact some are darn right mean and it is best to rely on his gut feelings about them.....find children he feels good with and be cautious of the others.....

children are used to this from cartoons,etc....always meanies and friendlies in cartoons and he needs to realise life is the same and distinguish between the two?

hope you sort this out!

By: icantfindmyteeth
16/05/2008
10:39 pm

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Maybe you should take him and just 'politely demand ' tests be done . Don't mean to scare you but theres plenty of conditions and things out there that stunt growth , but all thats probably gone through your head . Even if you have to 'borrow' someones average sized 6 year old for the appointment so they can see what your worried about . And while your there mention the bullying ? They could probably reccommend a program or counsellor in your area that could help him get the confidence to stand up for himself .Your school could probably do that as well , but it doesn't sound like they are being the best of help so far .

By: lostie_fan
16/05/2008
10:52 pm

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Have a meeting with the principal, vice principal and head of the P&C tell them what is happening to your son and let them know that you want teachers to keep an eye on him. make sure you use the term "Duty of care" to them they have the responsibility of having your son safe and happy when he walks in the gate that morning till the time he walks out that afternoon. If nothing has been done bring it up at your local P&C meeting, if they still will not listen get your son to see what the older kid looks like, what grade he is in anything and get a principal, his/parents and yourself to work out a way of the bully to leave him alone. If that doesn't work pull your child out of school as they do not have the maturity level to stop bullies

By: icantfindmyteeth
16/05/2008
10:56 pm

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Good advice lostie .

By: emucorp
16/05/2008
11:00 pm

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I've had to deal with a situation where my girl was getting pushed around by a much older boy. I started with a quiet word to the teacher and when nothing changed eventually formalised the complaint. The boy in question now has a carer assigned full time - I suspect other parents voiced concerns as well. I hated to be a "dobber" but it's the best for all parties that it gets pulled up and dealt with now - not later.

By: never_knew_that
16/05/2008
11:29 pm

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The boy in question is in my son's class- "prep", the boy only turned 5yrs 2weeks ago, my son is 6yrs in early July.... When this kids tied him up today, our son said he poked him in the chest & said "we don't like skinny runts around here", now I know that our son isn't making this up as he hasn't heard the term "skinny runt" in this house that is for sure.... Our family GP has always made it clear not to emphasize "skinny" or "small" around him, as we battle with his eating continually....... He was absoulutely doing so well at "prep", thank God he missed out going last year because he was past the cut off date of birth by a week, it turns out that he needed the extra time......

By: never_knew_that
16/05/2008
11:33 pm

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God no one prepares you for parenthood to be this emotionally taxing, I just sit & cry at the moment.... I have all these visions in my head of my little boy being bullied into an emotional corner with the feeling of never being able to get out....

By: emucorp
16/05/2008
11:35 pm

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I'm gonna send you an email ...

By: never_knew_that
16/05/2008
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Thats my biggest problem I can't talk to the teachers about it without crying & hence looking like an emotional train wreck.... Hubby says he is going to take him to school on Monday & talk to his teacher & the vice principal that looks after the lower classes.....

By: never_knew_that
16/05/2008
11:36 pm

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emu- I don't know my way around this yahoo, where will you send it to?

By: emucorp
16/05/2008
11:42 pm

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Oh I was just going to send it to your ID@yahoo.com.au ... ?

By: never_knew_that
16/05/2008
11:44 pm

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Okay I just floated around clicking on here & there & found an e-mail inbox it had a yahoo message in it from /12/07 when I joined up on here ... I really don't know much about it, should be able to get e-mails now though

By: emucorp
16/05/2008
11:45 pm

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K well there should be one there from me.

By: why_why_huh
16/05/2008
11:49 pm

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My niece was being bullied last year and shes exactly like your son. She will take the rough treatment from other kids to fit in. I think you should get your son to point out the bully and then make him aware that you know he's a bully by giving him the look. I wouldn't worry too much about him being a bit underweight. Soon enough you will be watching him eat you out of house and home.I've seen many kids go from skinny little chicken legs to big strapping lads down the track. Make an appointment with his teacher and get her to keep an eye on the bully. Once he knows he's being watched, that might do the trick.
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