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By: southerncrossofaustralia
10/10/2009
9:44 pm

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQAi9wonyRU&feature =player_embedded

For nearly a century, a political chasm has divided Turkey and Armenia - two neighbours with bitter hostilities from World War One. Now, both governments are set to sign a landmark peace accord: the first step towards normalising diplomatic relations. The move is expected to bring significant economic benefits to the region - a key transit corridor for gas and oil to the West. But it is also opening old wounds for many Armenians who accuse Turkey of a genocide in the waning days of the Ottoman Empire. Al Jazeera's Anita MacNaught reports from the Turkey-Armenia border.

By: southerncrossofaustralia
10/10/2009
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Good on the Armenians & Good on the Turks

The Zionists will now have kick themselves for not being able to fuel this conflict any further.

By: shir2lou
10/10/2009
10:08 pm

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You have a severe problem Spew.

I am also surprised that you dare to show your face around these boards after your abominable remarks.

By: barbarian9999
11/10/2009
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Airs free

By: southerncrossofaustralia
11/10/2009
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I do suppose you are ever capable debating or making any informative remarks...

By: southerncrossofaustralia
11/10/2009
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but we never seem to seem to see your "talents".. all we see from you Zionists is racial defamation and personal attacks...

By: shir2lou
11/10/2009
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Well spew old chap, Yahoo have your abominable post from a few days ago, as do the ADC, The Racial Discrimination Board and ACMA

You are the one that is a blantant antisemite and racist

By: southerncrossofaustralia
13/10/2009
2:23 am

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I am not a racist and certainly not an antisemite

It is you who is an antisemite and a Nazi... coz you are a fascist Zionist....

By: southerncrossofaustralia
13/10/2009
2:24 am

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http://en.rian.ru/world/20091012/156438429.html

Armenian president to visit Turkey for football match

14:2012/10/2009

ANKARA/YEREVAN, October 12 (RIA Novosti) - Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan will visit Turkey on Wednesday to watch a qualifier for the 2010 football World Cup between the two countries.

"[Turkish] President [Abdullah] Gul visited Armenia, and I see no reason for not accepting Gul's invitation," Sargsyan told journalists on Monday before boarding a flight to Moscow, where he is to hold talks with President Dmitry Medvedev.

Gul attended the reverse fixture in Armenia last year.

"If there are no emergencies in the next two days, I will go and support my favorite team," Sargsyan said.

Turkey and Armenia signed on Saturday historic accords restoring diplomatic relations and opening borders between the two countries. The documents are still to be ratified by parliaments amid continued fierce opposition from nationalist parties in both countries.

Armenia's foreign minister said the Armenian-Turkish border could be reopened before the end of the current year.

"I would not rule out anything. Everything is possible. This depends on how the parties respect the accords and move forward. Armenia has always respected agreements signed with other countries," Edouard Nalbandian said in an interview published on Monday in Russian business daily Kommersant.

The European Armenian Federation for Justice has spoken against the accords, which it said do not take into account issues such as the Turkish genocide of Armenians, recognition of the borders between Armenia and Turkey, and the Nagorny Karabakh conflict.

Turkey demands that Yerevan drop its campaign to have the mass killings of Armenians by Ottoman Turks in 1915 internationally recognized as genocide.

By: southerncrossofaustralia
13/10/2009
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Turkey closed its border with Armenia in 1993 in a show of support for Azerbaijan, a predominantly Muslim, Turkic-speaking ally of Ankara, following a bloody conflict over Nagorny Karabakh between the two republics.

The region in Azerbaijan, which has a largely Armenian population, has been a source of conflict between the former Soviet republics since the late 1980s and is de facto independent. Azerbaijan strongly opposes normalization of ties between Ankara and Yerevan before the Nagorny Karabakh conflict is resolved.

Armenia and Turkey agreed to a "roadmap" to normalize their relations under Swiss mediation this April. The draft pact between the countries had been backed by the United States and European Union.

By: southerncrossofaustralia
13/10/2009
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Good people in the vicinity of the Middle East are talking to Each other... whether the Zionists like it or not...

The Zionists kept boasting about this issue foe so long... and now this issue is being solved... another Zionist set back...

By: southerncrossofaustralia
13/10/2009
2:27 am

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Still... since this is between Turkey and Armenian.. this means that it is in Europe..

By: napier48
13/10/2009
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Interesting the Turks are now experts , have they apologised for the genocide of 2 million Armenians... err No..

By: southerncrossofaustralia
27/10/2009
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cry yourself to sleep Zionazi

the issue is settled now...

you talk about moving on.. and it is you who will never move on...

By: napier48
8/11/2009
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Can this bitterness be overcome so that a productive relationship between both peoples and countries can develop? During my trip, I spoke in Yerevan, Armenia’s capital, with Professor Mira Antonyan, director of the Fund for Armenian Relief, about the effects of past events on Armenians today. “The only thing that unites us [Armenians] now is our resentment against the Turks for the events of the past”, she told me. Her husband and a friend, both of whom do business with Turks, shared this sentiment despite their regular interactions. “Being Armenian means having sad memories”, she added.

I told them that I felt Armenians were in a quagmire, unable to move forward because of the tremendous weight of past events. Mira’s husband answered, “Genocide is a very heavy burden on our shoulders. We cannot just forget what happened. We cannot erase our memory.”

However, it seems there is a generational divide on this issue. Older generations – those over 50 years of age – insist on the need for an official apology from the Turkish government for the assassination of Armenians. Younger generations, without rejecting the facts of history, feel the need to overcome the negative effects of those memories. They believe that such visceral attachment to the past is self-defeating.

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp? col=&section=opinion&xfile=data/opinion/2009/Octob er/opinion_October42.xml

Looks like a feeble handshake does Zero to allay the resentment the average lo life Turk still has for the Armenians who were nearly wiped out by the Turks in an act of genocide

By: southerncrossofaustralia
9/11/2009
2:37 am

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http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp? col=&section=opinion&xfil e=data/opinion/2009/Octob er/opinion_October42.xml


Great ... now you are trying to be clever by using an Arab news outlet...

they are not feeble hand shakes.. what you portrayed are the opinions of individuals..

and what we have on the other hand are genuine strategic agreements between two countries... including the historic reconciliation...

By: southerncrossofaustralia
9/11/2009
2:38 am

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and coming back to your hypocrisy...

you want the Palestinians to "move on" even though their cause has not been addressed or solved...

and you do not want the Armenians to "move on".. even though we have a land mark agreement...

By: southerncrossofaustralia
9/11/2009
2:39 am

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and the only feeble things here are your posts and endless whinging....

By: napier48
9/11/2009
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you want the Palestinians to "move on" even though their cause has not been addressed or solved...

and you do not want the Armenians to "move on".. even though we have a land mark agreement...
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Why then when you talk of moving on don't you say the same thing for the Palestinians .... you can't have it both ways.. are you auditioning for Hypocrite of the year award
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