By: kenkthulhu
21/04/2006
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sorry - I have got the flu.
Libby, it's Libby. Lib-by say it with me. Libby. Libby. Libby.
Who was the one that said she was a psychologist (or something)?
I think SHE was at Santa Rosa.
Also (BIG thinking hat on here) Santa Rosa is a part of California - it's an island bought by the fed govt in the early 1900's. Also natural landowners are allowed to keep two kinds of livestock there until 2011.
Huh huh? Think about it... |
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By: blincotodd
21/04/2006
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i belive in M 111 tom used the word
EXECUTE |
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By: kenkthulhu
21/04/2006
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Okay here it is (and there are many more)...
Someone next to you on a plane, a complete stranger, talks to you about turbulence or something. He says " So where's your husband?"
And what do you say? |
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By: srsen
21/04/2006
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hehehehe that must be it! go tom. damn d1ckhead.
very interesting pick up about Santa Rosa island. could it be that it is the island they are on? wow, that could be bigger than we know |
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By: srsen
21/04/2006
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| i would say 'how would you know i have a husband.' |
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By: kenkthulhu
21/04/2006
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| I am talking about the conversation between Rose and Jack. What does Rose say? |
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By: srsen
21/04/2006
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| mate i cant remember right now, can you please tell me. i mean i CAN go home tonight, put in the DVD and search for it, but thats a pain in the a$$. i thought she said something about turbulence and her husband being in the bathroom |
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By: kenkthulhu
21/04/2006
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What ever you do, please don't say "What? That's it?"
She say's "Bernard went to the bathroom at the back of the plane."
Now you ask yourself the question "Why did she just say what she said?"
(Ok ask it AFTER you ask "What? That's it?") |
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By: srsen
21/04/2006
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so your saying that Rose was informing Jack that Bernard had taken his 'position' up the back of the plane? or that Bernard was never on the plane and that was one way of saying letting Jack know that? Bernard waasnt on the flight 815 seating plan afterall
i really dont think Jack is involved like that tho. or have i missed the point entirely? |
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By: micro_lost
21/04/2006
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My new (hopefully) theory. Perhaps all the losties are NOW in the Santa Rosa Mental Institute after the experiment on the island went wrong and they all went Psycho. Or it WAS just a plane crash and they are there for post traumatic stress therapy. The episodes that we are watching are the stories related in therapy sessions, told in retrospect, and the reason that there are discrepencies in events is due to different peoples memories and perceptions of events. eg Bernard in the toilet and in his seat on the plane.
Hence the connection between the passengers. They are including each other in their memories because their minds are confusing present with past due to group therapy sessions. If there were no Dharma conspiracy and it was just a plane crash incident it would make everything plausable and possible with no far fetched sci fi solutions.
Hope that makes sense! |
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By: blincotodd
21/04/2006
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| HIS IN THE LOO HIS GOT THE SH$TS |
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By: micro_lost
21/04/2006
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| aaand Rose Knew that her husband was alive because they are both at the looney bin together and she is thinking back to the island. |
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By: srsen
21/04/2006
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huh? is that all you think..
interesting about them being in therapy NOW, AFTER the crash, very interesting. very possible too. the good thing about that hteory is that it means the stuff on the island did happen and its not that stupid group unconcious experience thing. but instead the whispers and all that could be reality interferring with their retelling of the events/ of their memories.
you know what, i really think we are onto something. what does everyone else think? |
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By: kenkthulhu
21/04/2006
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my point is: No passenger should have to point out to another that the toilet is at the back of the plane, or anywhere for that matter. "Where's you husband now" "In the bathroom" should have been the correct answer. This is not information for Jack - people don't care about stuff they already know, so Rose wouldn't have said "at the back of the plane" to Jack, normally. But the producers want us to know where Bernard is. Because it is a clue. Okay to this I would normally attach only a small significance. But when they show it on a recap, and make a big deal about it, then it goes from small to big.
Also at some point B could have gotten to a seat a clipped himself in - this is not a discrepancy, just a story element.
Now ask yourself "What is the seat number that Bernard is sitting in when he is rescued from the tree?" |
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By: srsen
21/04/2006
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| hmm i see your point, and 'everytihng happens for a reason' so your probably right. he did end up as a tailie afterall. but what else could this be telling us. i have no clue of his seat number. is it a high number? coz if so the plane didnt have numbers passed 42 i didnt think (going off a very bad memory here tho) which could confirm he non-existance on the flight. |
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By: toomuchtime_onmyhands
21/04/2006
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hey guys, apologies for the delay. When i heard about the move i told the nurses at my old retirement village that i wanted to be sedated for the move to the IRV, but they forgot to take me off the meds and i've just woken up! Crazy young whippershnapper.
Anyway, here now, decor not that bad, and am enjoying sponge baths by cute male nurses! 'Come here sonny and give me a kiss'
Actually, I've been spending most of my dial-up time downloading the podcasts Damon Lindelof and Cartlon Cuse are doing. They're really funny!! But, thanks to dial-up, they take over an hour to download (must get broadband, must get broadband) Lots of spoilers though, as a new epidose comes up, they talk about that one. I'm about to go through them today and filter out all the nasty stuff for you guys but if you're willing to get an earful of spoilers, i highly recommend having a listen, even if you just listen to the first few (up to where we're up to episode-wise...)
http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/podcasts/99578.ht ml
ooh, about the boeing 767 - it's not true, whoever posted that didn't bother to check it!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_777
'The first flight of the 777 was in 1994.'
oh, and the Calvin thing - they're calling Desmonds partner Kelvin. In the episode transcript they use 'Kelvin'
http://www.lost-tv.com/transcripts/Orientation_Los t.htm
'It was 3 years ago. I was on a solo race around the world, and my boat crashed into the reef, and then Kelvin came.'
micro - i'm afraid that i'm thinking the same way about the mental institute...
and why do they keep saying the plane split in half? there were 3 bits. did anyne survive from the front or did they all end up tree ornaments like the pilot did?? |
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By: toomuchtime_onmyhands
21/04/2006
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aren't there toilets in the middle of the plane?? (It's been a while since i've flown) would Bernard have gone to the closest toilet??
Also - if nearly everyone has gone to St Sebastian's hospital, don't you think that means that hey all live in a pretty close vicinity to each other?? I live near a hospital in Brisbane but there are other hospitals a few suburbs away. It's odd that almost all of them have gone to that one hospital. |
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By: micro_lost
21/04/2006
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Perhaps I should have used other examples of discrepencies to support my theory regarding different versions of memories of the same event but I used that one to also illustrate the fact that despite Bernard and Rose being separated on the plane/island she is sure that Bernard is alive as a FACT not in hope or faith because she is with him now after they are rescued.
Perhaps the whole belief that they are prevented from being rescued is more a psycological one than a physical one. Rescued from disturbing thoughts and nightmares rather than a location. And, those that die have regained their sanity and leave the institution.
TMT help us out on this one! |
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By: toomuchtime_onmyhands
21/04/2006
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ooh, this site is really good for those 'can't be bothered going through episodes trying to see who said what' times
http://www.lost-tv.com/transcripts/ |
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By: micro_lost
21/04/2006
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| Perhaps they all went to the same institute because oceanairs insurance was paying for it and that is the hospital they deal with.( Medical agreements and kickbacks are rife. Gift baskets at Christmas, golf days etc. Group discount!) |
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By: toomuchtime_onmyhands
21/04/2006
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more examples area always good!
but in regards to Rsoe 'knowing' that hBernard was alive, i think that was a cross between denile (a place all us girls like to visit 'those pants will fit dag nammit') and women's intuition. I don't have kids (i'm trying to help fight the over-population of the world) but you hear stories of mothers 'knowing' there's something wrong with their kid, or (here comes the T word)... Twins sometimes know things too. almost ESP-ish |
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By: srsen
21/04/2006
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| TMT i thought the same thing when Charlie ran ALL THE WAY to the front of the plane, past several toilets. he was simply trying to escape being up the back of the plane. seemed he knew what was up. |
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By: toomuchtime_onmyhands
21/04/2006
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| so there's an airline company, hospital AND insurance company in on it? |
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By: toomuchtime_onmyhands
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| that's what i call a cross promotion |
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By: toomuchtime_onmyhands
21/04/2006
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hey srsen - hope your weekend of blues was un-blue!
i think Charlie was just running as far away as he could |
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