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By: rendezvous6315
13/03/2009
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I'm having a bit of trouble with the whole time thing. Not the travel part, the on island , off island stuff.
Off island is 3 years after they left, yet on island seems to be mere days after the freighter explosion.
Will Locke's leaving the island stop the flashes? Cos I dont think they can all survive 3 years of flashes if after days almost all are getting nosebleeds of death.
And if Locke's leaving stops the flashes, does that leave our losties stuck way, way back in time?
Oooh, just had another thought. If they are stuck way, way back in time, are the dead people found in the caves in season one, two of our losties, maybe Juliet & Sawyer? (yes I know Juliet is not a "lostie" but you get my drift). |
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By: mitchpetersen@ymail.com
20/03/2009
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You're looking at the lost storyline in chronological order, which makes complete nonsense, since the lefties have been travelling through time, it means that the timeline would have them in it before they even crashed on the island etc.
They haven't gone through 3 years of flashes, their STORY is just placed to coincide with 3 years later of the O6. Its really confusing to explain...
As for Locke leaving the island either
1. The flashes haven't stopped, straight after Locke left, they were transported to 70's when he fixed the wheel and have been there for a while BUT the flashes still happen just at longer intervals.
2. The flashes have stopped and they are stuck in the 70's BUT somebody has used the wheel again convieniently as the plane was flying over the island, since Swan probably wasn't around to pull them down.
You've got to note that Jin looked like he was basically DHARMA, so it wasn't set as John fixed the wheel it took the plane down, it looks like they've been in the 70's for a while.
You may ask if there was a forced flash, then how come the lefties have been in the 70's for a while? Wouldn't have they been instantly transported to a new timeline? Well - since the lefties are on their own flash intervals, when Jin left from wherever he came from, the flash probably happened and they are all not in the 70's anymore. If the story continues in DHARMA timeline, then it could be possible that the flash was a special flash that only affected the O6...
Anyway, this is confusing to explain... |
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By: mitchpetersen@ymail.com
20/03/2009
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| Just to note, the Swan could've been around, but it was probably ran better back then and so no error. |
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By: cheezal72
9/04/2009
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Ive been trying to work out things with the whole time issues as well.
As of episode 9 we learned it was that the ajira plane flight happened in 2007 30 years after the time of the Dharma events which that same episode Sawyer reinforced was still 1977.
Now they sawyer and co spent 3 years with Dharma so that goes back to 1974.
The White Flashes we are seeing are temporal (time) changes.
Hence the ones on the island went thru several of these as the wheel was off its balance.
What i believe is the island moves and yet doesnt move.
The orchid station wheel is what turns the island multiphasic with time and space.
It's shifts clearly thru various locations on earth as well as different times which is how in the middle of the island is a old medieval ship called the black rock picked up at some time when the island was jumping.
You'll also recall lots of peoples stories clashing saying we were off the coast of somewhere,not even in the pacific where the island supposedly is? hence they too were caught as the island jumped.
What's now got my attention and i dont know if people have notice is the correlation's between each time group.
it was mentioned with the french woman's group the various ppl were similiar roles to that of the main group.
But i have to double check but last episode when frank held the meeting of the new ajira 816 survivors on the beach about "we have to sit it out and we'll be rescued" I am almost certain he said word for word ,even held the same stance as what jack said to the original 815 survivors.
One factor i also thought of involved the whole pregnancies on the island.
Juliet was freaked when she was delivering of all ppl Ethan which was never revealed prior ( i believe) that he was born here.thinking clearly the baby and mother would die.
however they didnt! which meant there was a time on the island when all pregnancies on the island were safe!
The only place we know that hasnt been fully completed (more 2 come ... |
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By: cheezal72
9/04/2009
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I believe the error that occurs with the swan station is what generates the electromatic field which 1) conceals the island and 2) creates the temporal barrier around the island which makes it 20 minutes or so out of sync with real time. and 3) is the cause for the pregnancy issues!
juliet only knows of people she's treated whilst the swan was in operation, had anyone had a child since the swan had blown up. No! Sun could have been the first to test that but she left before it could be seen.
I dont believe someone has returned the wheel to crash the 2nd plane but rather the island once the wheel is set back right re set itself back where it should be.
I think the bleeding noses is only relative to how many times you are subjected to temporal change.
I.e Desmond came to the island on a boat! crossing 1,he tried to leave on the same boat (crossing 2),then he left again with michael etc.,the boat then also came close to the island (crossing 4).
Jack ,and Kate etc have only crossed 3 times! so maybe it hasnt been as harmful on them yet.
All the other islanders have been thru multi shifts until the wheel was put right.and unless u had a constant your nose bled.
I honestly believe that due to them saying to whidmore and co back in 54 they have set in motion the coming of dharma to this island, and directly because of the Dharma been somewhat responsible for their own crash.
But What say someone killed Ben! ben would never kill the Dharma and they would go about as normal.
Maybe then the event in the swan never occurs! and no crash of 315.
Is this how the whole temporal puzzle will end in season 6?
i think i will leave u all to ponder my rantings for a while.
feel free to add your own theories or dis beliefs ,as some parts are confusing but a little back referencing of old series usually come up with answers to those questions. |
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By: kate_luvz_u@y7mail.com
2/05/2009
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| love it 'nose bleeds of death' |
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By: haze_factor
2/05/2009
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| this is confusing |
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