By: yogalaties_13
10/06/2008
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Not that I can claim to know every little thing and detail of whats happened on the show or all of it's mythology, but here are a few of my ideas about what's going on in this show.
1. This is probably my most farfetched theory and it has to do with the widmore / ben /jacob/locke thing. What if there is like a real mythological ancient god thing happening where widmore and ben are reincarnations of some gods and they have been having an endless war over centuries for control of the island. Jacob could be another higher power above both of them and a being that never actually dies. I just think this because when widmore and ben were speaking to each other it was like they were two very powerful beings who knew one another couldn't die, maybe either of them dying could upset some balance or maybe they plain old can't die so they don't bother to try. Also lending to this theory for me is all the ancient ruins and the four toed statue. Oh yeah and the fact this show's taken a very ancient magic turn of events since they have now shown that smokey can be summoned and that the island can be magically moved.
2. This is just a quick thing about something ben said, knowing how the writers are very careful about what people say i think ben's statement of "whoever moves the island can never return" could be deliberately vague. That could just be his way of implying that once you've moved the island and ended up off of it, you don't know where it is and it's basically impossible to get back. Widmore might be the cautionary tale for this. While we're on what ben said "moving the island is a last resort" is another thing i think which is referring to time travel. Clearly richard has been buzzing around people's timelines for god knows what reason (oh yes that does help my reincarnations of gods theory, the entire picking an item, very reincarnations - something to do with picking a new dalhi lama i believe)so the others have got the power to do some time travel. But what if ... |
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By: yogalaties_13
10/06/2008
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Whoops didn't paste all of it.
But what if moving the island is a last resort because to do so ben had to destroy their pod that allows time travel. This could be a nice way to end all the time travelling and block out any of the inevitable paradox questions that would rise if more time travelling happened.
(ooh now that i'm typing this had another reincarnation theory, maybe widmore and ben don't want one another dead cause once they die they are reincarnated anywhere and well it could be tricky to find your mortal enemy when he can now be anyone. Plus maybe they don't know about what they are till a certain age or till they get to the island?!? OOOH maybe that's why babies can't be conceived/born on the island!! Cause a baby can't be born there else they're pretty much guaranteed to be a reincarnation or something. Maybe that's why Claire don't want Aaron to go back, she knows if he comes back he'll realize what he is... ooh so many theories so much rambling)
I've now gone blank but i know I had more to say... oh well...
btw it is my theory i just have posted it on two sites. |
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By: g_kot
10/06/2008
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| so is Locke an other reincarnation? Because it seems that the island chose a different leader-savior. If Ben wasn't the one he could die, where is Locke fitting there? |
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By: yogalaties_13
10/06/2008
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| Yeah well that's a nice big hole in my theory ain't it. Could be one of two things i suppose, there are more than two gods being reincarnated here, or; working on the idea the person doesn't know about their reincarnated selves till they arrive, the others told ben he was a reincarnation and that has turned out to be hogwash considering he got a back tumor whilst on the island, meaning locke is the real deal. I don't know really, but i still like my theory lol. |
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By: pgdownload
11/06/2008
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Remember though that Jacob is in trouble (in the cabin) - and we haven't seen him since then.
I agree that there's a strong theme of an endless battle, road to walk etc. where characters are all playing parts. Don't think that 'gods' need necessarily come into it though.
I think you're spot on as to why Ben said he could never return. Its nothing mystical as such its just that in turning the wheel the island 'moves' and once again becomes totally hidden from the outside world. Remember it was a one in a million fluke that Desmond turned the rest key and revelled the location of the island to the people watching for just such a chance.
Makes you think that possibly Wildimore has turned the Donkey Key himself?
But we see that Ben is still in the 'game' and he realises the O6 need to return and possibly he see's that as his ticket back in - just make sure you're along for the ride.
On a later post: I don't see Locke as 'the real deal'. As Ben discovered the island is a '***'. It used Ben for as long as it needed him but Locke is now the next one to carry on its bidding. Both are as legitimate as each other IMO.
Regards
Peter Gillespie
PS: Great, the show uses strong language in pivotal ways but the website to discus it won't allow the word |
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By: pgdownload
11/06/2008
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As for time travel paradoxes I suspect the writers have that covered. Either each time travel involves jumping to another world (that doesn't effect the one you just left), Or perhaps more likely it is almost always forwards in nature (ie basically more just instant suspended animation).
But maybe ALL the players and the island are caught in a big loop. The island keeps jumping back and lining up its 'pieces' and trying again to get an outcome that lets everyone move forward.
I still can't get over how it was probably young Desmond who gave Charlie the courage to learn to swim. This despite Charlie not being able to when he arrived on the island - time changes.
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By: mitchpetersen65
13/06/2008
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| Erm, okay but nobody has ever said anything like 'jacob can't die'. Just because he's weird and some people can't see him and he has telekinetic abilities doesn't mean he can't die. |
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By: yogalaties_13
13/06/2008
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| Yeah I don't know if he can or can't die. But it seems he isn't exactly normal. Well i guess we have to wait till next year by which time i will have almost lost interest. |
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By: weirdkid1010
13/06/2008
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on lostopedia there is picture of a man in the plane taking the survivors home.
i'm not sure about you but he looks a lot like locke.
in the week that the oceananic 6 are on penny's boat what do you think could have happened to locke to get him all the way to the island where the 6 are found??
just a theory |
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