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| hey l was just asking you don't have to get testy.... l fully understand if you feel your pediatrician isn't doing the right thing by you and your child get a second opinion... by the way this is NOT your fault...... if you live in Melb l have a great ped who is very caring a listens to his parents.... he also likes to dot the i's and cross all t's... my intention was not to upset anyone.. |
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| tami ive made a little progress with bai with sitting on the potty i bring it in the lounge room and he can watch a tv show he likes as long as he sits on it i started with just trying to get him to stay on it for a little while and i didnt ask him to try to go now he does that ok ive started to ask him to do a little squeeze but thats not going well hes just to scared its going to hurt but for now im happy he has gone from chucking a wammy to reluctantly sitting | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| i want another pediatrician because it is my child he is dealing with and i have every right to seek another that is going to be more helpful and actually listen and not make me hold back tears in the appointment because they make you feel like its your fault and its obviously what youve been feeding your kid | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| bowel wash outs can be very very uncomfortable... l really feel for him.. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| so why another pediatrician you know they are human just like us and can't get it right every time... also how long was it between your appt and having the xrays it does bulk up rather quickly you know... a phycologist sounds like it maybe a good idea.. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| So pleased to hear we are not alone with a 7 year old with this condition! We are off to hospital this holiday for a bowel wash out - any info or experiences would be greatly appreciated. We seem to be able to handle most days at school but totally fall apart with any change of routine. We have noticed that diet seems to have a role but there is so much more!!!! School is so much easier with sympathetic teachers and pre school friendds who have only known him this way. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| hello yeh it is good to know there is a bit of support out there, i just got the results back from baileys 2nd xray and it says his bowel is still showing signs of constipation i tell you what i feel like pulling my hair out, i only got this 2nd xray for my own piece of mind as the gp or the pediatrician didnt seem to think it was neccasary i cant believe this at his last appointment the pediatrician felt his belly and said "it seems like his bowel is emptied out now" wow i guess he has xray fingers well he was wrong according to the report so now i suppose its back to try another gp and get a referral to a different pediatrician, and the only advice i can give is mabey try to get her into a phycologist to try to get over the fear thats what it seems like some of the other mums are doing that will be my next step for bai | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| wow what a relief to read all these messages, my 3+1/2 yr old daughter has the same problem, she doesn't acknowledge she has even done it, she screams and cries when I ask her to go to the toilet because she's so scared it will hurt her. I feel completely helpless watching my baby cry on the toilet. I have tried parachoc to no avail, am currently on coloxil which works ok but I am worried this is not fixing the problem and I dont want her to get dependant on the drops. I have also tried changing her diet as she eats no fruit or veg, I have resorted to force feeding her some veges and have changed to wholemeal bread. And like the other kids mentioned here she is very bright (3rd child) and stubborn and determined to ignore the problem, I would be grateful for any advice or hints to try because like all of you none of my family or friends have been through this and dont understand, they say I should just be tougher on her and she'll just get over it. Tami. |
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| hi there we went back to the pediatrician and they say that bailey's bowel is cleaned out and ready to start retraining the bowel and starting the basic potty training but he is so scared to even sit he is hiding in corners of the house to go i dont know how to get him past the fear to push i feel like if he wont push he will just hold it back and then we will be at square 1 all over again with the constipation | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Hi everyone, I have a 7yr old boy who has suffered with encopresis for years. His ability to defy the laws of nature has everyone believing that I am obviously the one casuing all of the problems. My 7yr old is also the text book case of highly intelligent, strong willed and stubborn. We are about to try hypnotherapy, if anyone has tried hypnotherapy I would love to hear about your results. Thanks rebecca | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| hi there yep i got it thanks very much the advice was great i'm just after any advice i can get, our next pediatrician appointment is in 2 weeks so i am going to see what they think about seeing a psychologist but then i wonder if that will help as his bowel is still not functioning normally | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Hi Chrissie I did respond to your email. I was wondering if you received it ? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| hi mums just want to get your opinion on my 3 1/2 yr old as he is still on movical to unblock his bowel and he seems to have no control over his soiling as his bowel is stretched from being constipated for so long i wonder if i should just back off from trying to get him on the loo as it just upsets him and stresses me out and seems to be getting no where do you think i should just concentrate on getting the bowel repaired and leave him in pull ups and not even worry about the tiolet for a while? i just wanted an opinion off mums who no what i'm talking about as friends and family still seem to compare to when their kids were trained and it doesnt matter how many times i explain the medical problem i still feel like they are judging and dont understand it feels like most people just go on age and what age a kid should be trained | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Hey Naomi and Chrissie! We are still going with our treatment from the psychologist and we have made some headway! My son also started to pee himself as well! AArrggh. The psychologist has given us some great tips on "Para-Toileting behaviour" It means that you take it down to basics and reward them for basic toilet behaviour! Its quite alot to explain and it would take a huge reply, If you want you can email me on sheebles001@yahoo.com.au if you need a sympathetic ear and maybe a few helpful suggestions, but goodluck and your definately not alone!!!! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| hi it is comforting to know there is other parents going through it my son has always had severe constipation which has progressed to encopresis for more than a year more than 1 gp and a health nurse insisted that most kids get constipated its normal my sons almost 4 and goes to pre school 1 day a week and has had accidents there i hope it will be under control by big school he is refusing to sit on the toilet or potty and has gone backwards with his wee's he was fully trained day and night with wee's but now he is in pullups most of the time he just forgets or its easier and he does it in them ive got a 1 year old and i am pregnant again and feel like i spend my days cleaning poo all day thanks for letting me get that off my chest to other parents going through it ive tried rewards and star charts to get him to sit on the loo if anyones got any tips that wouls be great | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| I was relieved to see your entry - I am online out of desperation as my 5 year-old with encopresis has just peed on the floor - another problem we are dealing with. I just never fathomed that something as "simple" and "natural" as pooing and peeing would become such a hassle and source of frustration. We have just started with a psychologist after solving the constipation problem but my daughter just doesn't seem to want to change the behavior. How are things going with you? Any more successes? We kept her backk from Kindy because of it but she has to do next year and I am so afraid that if she gets teased, we will have a soiling AND an "I hate school" problem. Happy to be in touch with someone who shares this awful dillema. Naomi Travers |
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| Yes I am from Melbourne. Lactulose is also called duphalac and can be purchased over the counter at pharmacies. It is very sweet so kids don't mind it, I used to mix it up with a small glass of really strong cordial to help her get it down. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Thanks Jen. Its nice to know there is always someone out there who has been through it and come out the other side! Our psychologist has said that when he does have accidents he has to clean it up himself, and wash his pants out.He seems to not mind and I thought he would hate it. The parachoc does seem useless. I will get a hold of some of that other stuff. I am guessing your from Australia and it is availabe here? Thanks again | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| We found parachoc hopeless, lactulose is much better. Just make sure he has a kit with him at all times, undies plastic bags, wet ones and some powder, and try to get him to acknowledge he has had an accident, that will be a huge step. Once he's ready get him to go and clean up and change, he's probably a bit young for that yet. I think they make disposable undies or pull ups for bigger kids these days so they would probably help, I don't know how many hundreds of pairs we chucked out over the years. Good luck with it all, Jen | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Oh my God Jenk you had this for 7 years!!! I dont know if I honestly can do this for any legth of time. Its now been 10 months and I feel totally hopeless now. Yes he is a very stubborn lttle boy and we just dont seem to be getting anyway. He is seeing a child psychologist, and hes on parachoc but it all just seems hopeless, I really am at my wits end. Hes just started kindy and thank God we havent had an accident yet, but you know how kids can be and Im just dreading it!!!!! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Hi, my daughter had encopresis from age 4 to about age 11, and yes it is hell. We to went through the childrens hospital and did all the behaviour training etc, to no end. Encopresis tends to affect extremely stubborn, intelligent children and is as much a behavioural problem as anything else. I can remember that she would have an accident and not even acknowledge it, refused to go and change even when other people around her made (not so sutle) comments about the smell. At the time our biggest struggle was to involve her in the management and be aware of the problem. Nothing we did seem to make much difference, including diets, daily apperients etc. Then one day she just said i think it's time this stopped, and guesss what, it did. From that day forward it never happened again. I truly believe that although its cause it ususally physical, it's ongoing effects are behavioural. The more strong willed the child, the harder to budge. She is now 15 and a typical normal self obsessed teenager who has it seems suffered no long term damage. Good Luck | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Hello There. Anybody out there who is coping with a child with encopresis? We are about 9 months into this and have been through the public health system and we are currently seeing a psychologist for our 4 year olds problem, which all stemmed from a really bad case of Gastro. Just wondering if anybody had some tips or advice how to get through it all, and remain sane at the same time!! Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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