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By: mikewtas
13/07/2009
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Thanks Cass and Pyretta.
I think I will aim for 1 optifast a day ( for vits etc) and then juices etc for the rest. I will also have a berocca performance each day.

I will then adapt as I go...

I must say that it is frustrating not to have gotten any useful info from the surgery.

Thankgod for this board and the people who share their knowledge.

Cheeers, mike

By: cassowary30
13/07/2009
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Hi Mike. I, too, am in the liquids stage. My op was one week ago. I have been drinking V8, orange juice and water. I also have coffee. For meals, I find I crave savoury foods and my partner has made some wonderful soups (cauliflower, beetroot, chicken and even prawn (with prawns removed, of course). He basically pours them through a sieve so there are no lumpy bits for me. He has been enjoying the puree left over - the beetroot and cauliflower was especially nice, apparently.

Up & Go drinks are also convenient if you have to go anywhere and can be nice for breakfast. But I'm sick of sweet things which taste a bit sickening to me now (must be the after-effects of the time on tasteless Optigloop). When my partner has a steak or prawns, I have stolen a small sample which I chewed for the flavour and then (as revolting as it sounds) spat out so I didn't swallow any lumpy bits.

I've read that others have also enjoyed indulging in chocolate milk and runny custard. Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Cass

By: pyretta_blayze_au
13/07/2009
6:15 pm

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Reposting:
Immediately post op you wont be able to have much for a few hours, and you must sip slowly!!! perhaps 50mls at a time for a while. (everyones experience is different but this is pretty much what you can have)
anything you have must be thin enough to fit up a straw, and have NO LUMPS. if you need to water things down try doing it with milk which helps with PROTEIN .
liquid vitamins are important (IRON is essential)
immediately post op -
ice chips or water
next day- (after baruim swallow if that is your surgeons thing)
clear broth
apple juice
peppermint tea (good for the wind)
jelly?
day 2 you should be able to start milk drinks -
sustagen, up n go, tea or coffee, milo, etc
soup but still thin
drinking yoghurt
vegie juice
prune or pear juice if you are having issues moving your bowels.
Low fat frozen yoghurt in little 100gram tubs
ww custard with extra milk to be thin enough(yummm)
ww mousse
smoothies
snack pack
ice cream
Put anything you're not sure of through a sieve.
by day 4 or 5 you possibly could drink 250ml in about half an hour to an hour.

by then end of your 2 or 3 weeks of liquid you can start thickening up your things in preparation for mushy stage.

There are some fantastic "liquid" recipes in this thread, just look back through the pages
hope this is helpful!

By: pyretta_blayze_au
13/07/2009
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Mike,

There are some suggestions here: http://au.messages.yahoo.com/lifestyle/lap-band/25 55/ as well as throughout this thread but really it is anything you want, puree and mixed with liquid until it has no lumps and could easily be sucked up a straw.

A great protein hit is an egg flip, or for protein and fibre try the braised steak and baked beans blended in beef stock. Any soups, flavoured milks, even Optifast. You really are limited by your imagination when it comes to liquids and mushies.

Pyetta

By: mikewtas
13/07/2009
5:54 pm

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Pyretta,

Liquids for me will be 4 weeks, I have been given literature from the team that contains VERY little information...

So just putting the call out there for any advice...

Cheers Mike

By: pyretta_blayze_au
13/07/2009
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Mike,

Each surgeon differs as to what they expect us to do post op. Some ore on liquids for 1 week, some 4 weeks. for some Jelly is okay , for others not. You really need to get the information from your surgeon or one of their team as to what THEY expect.

There is a thread on here: what to stock up on,http://au.messages.yah oo.com/lifestyle/lap-band /2555/ which also suggests some liquids that may be suitable for the post op stage.

Pyretta

By: cherry.kisses98
13/07/2009
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Thanks Pyretta. Some good pointers there. I am still on Optifast at the moment - my surgery is due on the 23rd of this month. Fully realise it's a new way of life and I can't wait!!! woo hoo!!!

By: mikewtas
13/07/2009
3:29 pm

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Hi all,

I am just wondering if any one has anything they can email to me (mikewtas@yahoo.com.au) regarding the liquid stage, i.e: what to drink...

I am a true believer that knowledge is power, so I am trying to get all the information I can prior to Op in 8 days...

Thanks heaps, Mike.

By: pyretta_blayze_au
13/07/2009
3:17 pm

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Cherry,

I only stayed on the painkillers for 3 days but some people need longer. I wasn't in much pain at all. One week may be enough but you still may find yourself uncomfortable behind the desk. Try and get up and have short strolls every hour or so.

I was back on the treadmill after a week, just slowly at first. You will know when everything starts to feel okay. When you get back to exercise just take it easy to start with. It takes around 6 weeks for things to heal properly.

If you are more than 2 days post op try mixing up your "meals" an egg flip sounds like it's in order.

Hang in there and don't be in too big a hurry. This isn't a diet now, it's a way of life.

Pyretta

By: cherry.kisses98
13/07/2009
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Hey Pyretta,

How long do you normally have to stay on the painkillers for? Also, I am taking about 1 week off work becoz that is all I have in sick leave owing to me, will I be ok - have a desk job. How long before I would be able to power walk / jog? Any tips from anyone would be great and have already had a lot of good info from this site. So sick of drinking black tea, bonox and optifast tho... x

By: charmainenessi
13/07/2009
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Hi Everyone,
I was banded last Thurs 9/7/09 and so far so good.
When i started optifast 3 weeks before op i was 113kg, this morning i had to get hubby to check that i was reading the scales right when they said 103kg. WOOHOO
STill a little tender and find i can't move around too much for too long. Have no appetite at all, but am in the middle of a huge fight with my head that is craving food. I guess all i'm missing is actually putting food in my mouth. But having lost 10kg in 3 weeks, who can complain. I printed a pic of Megan Foxx for inspirationn, "Meagn Foxx look out, here I come". hahaha

By: pyretta_blayze_au
11/07/2009
4:32 pm

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That should read then stick to their guidelines.

By: pyretta_blayze_au
11/07/2009
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Deb,

it was the dietitian at the hospital who gave me the "recipe for the braise steak, baked beans and stock. As long as there are no lumps and it is thin enough to go up a straw, anything should be fine UNLESS your surgeon has told you different, thin stick to their guidelines.

Pyretta

By: wicadone
11/07/2009
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Sorry to butt in Pyretta but can we really blend soup like that with meat in it for our liquid stage?. I understand that the bar mix would be swirling along and to add stock to make it runny..... I am day 5 and only dared have approx 100mls of protein shake this morning (and i thought i hated opti..lol) So, hubby got me some thin chicken noodle and spring vege soup, can i blend the chicken noodle and water that down too??? Pls excuse my ignorance.
Thanks
Deb

By: cherry.kisses98
7/07/2009
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Thanks heaps once again Pyretta! To the lady asking about the public system.... which state are you referring to? I am going in as a public patient only have to pay for the consult fees. I had to wait a year to get on the list. Was trying to use my super to pay for it but got such a run around by incompetent doctors and their staff, til I got the good news that I was now on the free list.

By: pyretta_blayze_au
6/07/2009
3:50 pm

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Cherry there is a thread on here: what to stock up with pre op. http://au.messages.yahoo.com/lifestyle/lap-band/25 55/ It has a lot of items listed for the liquids stage as well.

Pyretta

By: cherry.kisses98
6/07/2009
3:14 pm

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Hi Pyretta,

Your info has been most valuable. There wasn't a lot of information given due my visits to the specialist and dietician. Their pamphlets have very minimal detail on them. So I have been googling like mad to find out what I need post op. It's great reading everyone's tips!

By: pyretta_blayze_au
4/07/2009
8:29 am

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Miss,

It sounds like you need more protein. Try an egg flip or the recipe my dietitian gave me for protein during the liquid phase: Take a can of steak and veggies or one of those chunky soups and a can of baked beans and blend them until they are smooth. Thin them down with beef stock to a runny consistency and then warm it in the microwave 1/2 a cup at a time to "eat". You can do this with just the baked beans as well.

Pyretta

By: miss.bee76
3/07/2009
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Please help. It's day 5 post op and I'm starving. I have developed a headache and an aching stomach. I don't feel like it is from the surgery or wind pain as those have subsided. This is different

I am having about 2 sustagans, 1 up and go, some chicken broth and a choc milk each day plus water. My stomach just growls. Is this normal?

Missbeehaven

By: pyretta_blayze_au
1/07/2009
4:40 pm

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Tanya,

Make an appointment with your GP if you are concerned but I'd start having some yakult or similar every day to try and help restore your body's balance.

Pyretta

By: tanny468
1/07/2009
4:36 pm

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Hi Ladies

I was banded on Friday, so today is day 5, I have had diarrhoea for the past couple of days. Anyone else experience this? Just worried if I lose everything I am eating (which isn't a lot) I will get run down fast. Tanya

By: j.bone007
29/06/2009
9:34 am

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No worries :)

The optifast is a good idea if you can handle the taste because its complete in terms of dietary needs. But its definately not a must. Personally one more of those shakes and i think my guts would have resigned and started looking for another employer...

Just dont forget your multivitamin and you'll be right :)) Enjoy!!

By: melaniec503
29/06/2009
8:26 am

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LOW FAT CHOCOLATE MILK.
I LOVE you J.B
Thamks, thanks, thanks
Also up and go yum.
Will get my hubby down to the shops today for some,
I am so looking forward to that tonight
I thought I could only have the opti and a bit of juice and soup, might try something other than chicken and strain it.
Again BIG thanks.

Mel

By: j.bone007
28/06/2009
7:50 pm

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Hi Mel,

I am having pretty much the same thing every day - may not be your thing but if it helps then cool :)

Breakfast:
Soluble Panadeine
Supradyn
Up & Go 250ml (many flavours available which is helpful)

Morning Tea:
Glass of Low Fat Chocolate Milk

Lunch:
Half can of soup - strained (i have bought about 8 different varieties)

Afternoon Tea:
More Panadiene - More Milk

Dinner:
Low fat custard & low fat ice cream.

I have water buy my side constantly to sip on. Banana smoothies are a good idea to for between meals IF you feel you need something.

Hope this is in someway useful. Sure beats Optifast!

jB

By: melaniec503
28/06/2009
5:50 pm

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Hi
I was also done on Friday and still a bit of tummy pain, wind pain has gone, I also feel a little nausea when I drink anything, I am over liquid already, this is a worry how long can I last on this.
Any ideas for something tasty (liquid that is) Opti and V8 juice and chicken broth is all I am having.
Thanks

Mel
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