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| jenized I'm very disappointed to read your post, contrary to others email suggestions I've received, I can now definitely rule out you or Madonna as being gillim or hoochi. Leanne |
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| Geez I came here to respond to what I said I would do tonight and have been side tracked yet again. I'll come back later after I have dinner and do it. Leanne |
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| Doreen If I wanted a thread of my own I would have created it a long time ago, same as a blog. I'm quite capable of creating a thread or a blog but don't need either. I have even emailed Yahoo and asked them to delete threads which refer to my name and were created by others without my permission but they still exist. You know very well I don't know you the same as you don't know me. I was even thinking of asking people who do know you if you speak with a foreign accent (broken English) because that would explain why so many of us can't understand your "ramblings". You not knowing me didn't stop you from accusing me of using fake IDs to "email" you and post nasty posts on here. You also posted here saying my posts were "ramblings" among other nasty things including "dead Leanne" which I still can't figure out what that means because you refuse to answer. I posted a friendly post on the Brisbane thread suggesting that anyone who would like to co-ordinate any get-togethers anywhere in Brisbane or Gold Coast, should feel welcome to do so and not feel that it is only up to one person to do so and I included a link to the Perth thread as an example to show what great fun and success get-togethers can be if more than one person feels comfortable to co-ordinate them. You responded with a nasty post saying "obviously some people have issues with me". Think about it Doreen we didn't have a problem until you instigated it and fired all those nasty comments and wrongful assumptions at me without any proof to back them up. If you can't stand the heat you shouldn't have started a fire. You speak of maturity and in the same post you hypocritically say your going to play tit for tat, yeah that's really mature. I don't give a hoot what you do to any threads with my name on them, I didn't create them so they are not MY threads and unlike you I'm not so full of self importance that I either need them or want them! Leanne |
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| Hi guys, A few of us from here who have had enough of all this have set up a new board. It is moderated and we can delete posts and PEOPLE if they behave badly. We would love you see all the SANE people come on over!! It's only new but we are building it!! http://groups.google.com.au/group/lap-band-surgery -australia Yahoo will space out the link above so you will need to rejoin it for it to work. Email me if you have any probs. sweetascaz@gmail.com Caz http://nothingsweetaboutmeyeah.blogspot.com |
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| my god some people have waaaayyyy oo much time on their hands. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Doreen...just ignore it...I know it's hard...rubbish always happens here every now and then....nutters are always around...Don't give them the satisfaction of the attention. Be strong within yourself, you have had a great journey, lots to be proud of. And you can go to bed with a clear conscience unlike some. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| http://www.teamtechnology.co.uk/troll-tactics.html If you read this you will find that certain people fit the bill exactly!! |
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| Strategic Trolls Strategic trolls often operate in groups, rather than alone. They use multiple personalities, each of which uses the techniques outlined in the section on tactical trolls. However, they have an overall strategy for drawing bona fide list members into argument, ultimately causing them to leave, or for the trolls to dominate of the group. In particular: They have various phases to their strategy, where each phase aims to achieve different things. The first phase usually involves establishing multiple personalities who become recognised as integral members of the group - "friendly trolls". Don't be deceived by the title - they appear to be friendly but they have very different hidden motives. Establishing friendly trolls in a group is a process that can take many months or even years. The second phase involves using new personalities to start divisive threads, in the manner outlined under "Tactical Trolls". In the event that no list members respond to these threads, other phase two trolls will respond to them to keep the debate active. If existing list members have not yet joined in the arguments, the third phase involves "offensive trolls" attacking their own personae from the first phase. As these trolls will have built up a lot of goodwill in the group, other list members will jump to their defence, and they are therefore drawn in to the argument. In case other list members don't join in, "defensive trolls" may join in and continue to give air time to the "offensive trolls". The friendly trolls can also incite bona fide list members to join in using offlist emails. Another phase may involve the friendly trolls starting to retaliate publicly, calling on the support of bona fide list members. When things start to get out of hand, petrol will be poured on the flames to try and stir things up as much as possible and cause the maximum amount of strife and chaos. The following is a further extract from the FAQ (Frequently Asked Question ... |
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| Various excuses can be used for not releasing personal information, including privacy. There are some bona fide people who do not wish to be traced via the internet - but this makes it difficult to distinguish trolls from real people. If in doubt, assume that they are a troll, and don't simply believe the sophisticated lies that trolls use to hide their identity. Also, don't rely solely on your intuition - you need to establish hard data to help find out whether your intuition is for real. |
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| Tactical Trolls Tactical trolls take much more care and effort over the creation of their personae. Such trolls are likely to be seen as long term list members, and have the confidence and trust of the bona fide people on the mailing list. They use many of the techniques listed for Playtime Trolls, but in addition: They engage in off list email dialogues to gain the confidence and trust of influential individuals on the list. They are friendly and humorous in the posts, to put you at ease with their persona. They have a well-thought-through story such that the persona seems to be very real. They will give apparently personal and intimate information, particularly in off list emails. They win trust by giving trust. For example, they may hint at something confidential on-list, but then only reveal the full story to someone off-list. By bringing someone into their confidence, they create a feeling of confidence towards them by the individual's concerned. In off list emails, they win allies and support for some of their views. Their offlist emails are subtly manipulative. They 'set up' bona fide members to argue with each other. Any view, no matter how outrageous, can be made to sound rational when put in a certain context. By setting different contexts for different people offlist, they create a setting whereby they can raise a topic on-list, in a seemingly innocent manner, and then watch the two list members argue because they have interpreted the topic/message in very different ways. In off-list emails, they use techniques borrowed from NLP and Speed-Seduction to make people have a great deal of affection for them. This naturally suppresses any suspicion there might be. They use gimmicks that win sympathy and bring out the 'nurturing parent' in other list members, which also suppresses any feelings of suspicion. E.g.: being blind, handicapped, an orphan, rejected, bullied etc.. They build up a reasonable knowledge of the topic of the list. This en ... |
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| I would personally like to see Doreen as well and Leanne and all her alias's leave the boards permanantly. Their behvaviour is atrocious. Leanne with her venom and irrational behaviour and Doreen with her retaliation and posts full of spaces. You both are childish and rude, email each other and leave the boards to those who enjoy friendly banter and genuine advice. So disappointed to have to see all this rot and carry on. Jen |
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| well let me say this....Panadol sandwich is a well know nasty little troll that has several id's and has been doing the traps for years....just some food for thought, my suggestion is to ignore it and the others...they thrive on this sort of activity..its all a game to them | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| mines on my thread ,always has been , she has emailed before ,Doreen (she is only on here to destroy this thread ) |
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| Girls, its nothing to do with me, but if you have each others email address's wouldn't it be better to do this there rather than here for everyone to read. Madonna |
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| leanne , by the age of 53 , most people have grown up and act that way , do you have a disability of some kind ,that stops maturity why are you still going , I do not know you (and to my knowledge you do not know me) if you continue rot here I will return each and every post of yours from here over the next week to Welcome...Leanne_555 thread , |
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| Doreen Reposting a paragraph from my message posted at 110.01 and 4.56 yesterday because you can't get it through your thick head and you are still accusing me of "hating" you and exacerbating the problem between us. Doreen said: "Finally after months ,have worked out why you hate me" Sorry to disappoint you Doreen I don't "hate" anyone - too much wasted energy - the only thing I hate is the word "hate". Yes Doreen you are "CRAZY" assuming I would create fake user IDs to harass someone I "have never met" and I didn't have a problem with until you attacked me. Why did you attack me when I have never met you or had a problem with you? "Doreen you are in DENIAL, it is you who started this "rot" and you casting blame on ME, not even others but ME!!! You caused the problem between us and now you continue to attack and say I caused it." Doreen Said: "may I say I have never met her (at all) and cannot get over her hating of me so much (I have never had anyone, hate me before, so all new to me) seems so crazy when I do not even know her but she intends destroying this thread so I am currently taking the positive info ,elsewhere at present ,Doreen I'd love to see PROOF of where you have ever defended me, I don't recall seeing any posts here of you defending me. You never resist putting your two cents worth in instead of ignoring what doesn't concern you. You've even betrayed the moderators and owner of a group you were moderator on. WHAT MODERATORS DISCUSS STAY WITH THE MODERATORS, shows how trustworthy you are - NOT. If anyone again said my surgeon was a "butcher" I would posts the same posts again, especially when the slanderer hadn't even informed the surgeon or his staff of any problem when his staff gave her the opportunity twice to do so, she was asked face to face and again contacted her by phone and she said she was "happy with everything" and "had no problems". Leanne |
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| Ditto my post to wlouise to panadol.sandwich. Leanne |
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| wlouise18 I gave you the benefit of the doubt yesterday which is why I chose not to ignore you and directed a post to you. Your posts since have left me in no doubt that you have been involved in this board for awhile to know it's history so it's obvious to me now that you are using a fake user ID, the very thing that instigated this trouble that Doreen and I are having because she accused me of using fake IDs which I didn't and has no PROOF to support her claims. Leanne |
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| Arrrrrrrrrrrrrgh - the suspense and drama of it all is killing me ROFLMA |
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| Just popping in to apologise for not spewing forth as I said I would do last night, I will do so tonight and that's definite no matter how tired I am but unlike last night I won't be going out so I can do it. I didn't have time last night as I was too tired when I got home and went to bed early, well midnight but that's early for me and I don't have time today because I'm going out soon. Leanne |
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| Aaaaaah... Panadol sandwich... my....my.... throw out the bait and the sharks arrive! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| I have defended this lady so many times here and else where eg a forum (I was a moderater on) last year was closed down due to some postings leanne reacted to about a dr and as a moderater I refused to agree to kicking her out and so got into hot water with the other moderaters by saying no one ever give's her a break ,Doreen |
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| I too ,then hope this thread dies , my journey is over , so see this as my past And really if the worst I do in life is spell wrong or have bad paragraphs, so what ,I do not care lol, my life is good , manners are something I was bought up with ,and those are never lacking , Doreen |
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| may I say I have never met her (at all) and cannot get over her hating of me ,so much (I have never had anyone, hate me before, so all new to me ) seems so crazy when I do not even know her but she intends destroying this thread so I am currently taking the positive info ,elsewhere at present ,Doreen |
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| Doreen. for what its worth, I think you do contribute to helping lapbanders even though sometimes your posts are hard to follow, so does leanne and mel as long as they stay away from picking on eadh other and you.Leanne and Mel give as good a contribution as you do to. Shame that there's some bad blood somewhere along the line and that it cant all just be let go and forgotten. I read your posts Doreen right from the time you started and without unerstanding any issues with you and Leeanne it all seemed pretty friedly. Shame about that beause it wss mostly informative stuff and very helpful from most posters. Shame other stuff has to get in the way and you cant all forgive and forget in the name of helping people in their journey of banding. Just my two cents worth, | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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