By: fluffy_puppie 16/11/2009 10:18 am Yahoo! Profile: fluffy_puppie Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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http://au.messages.yahoo.com/tv/tv_general/
That is the discussion thread for Sunday Night's lapband story.
I just went there and had a vent! Come on banders!!
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By: beezneez16 16/11/2009 10:10 am Yahoo! Profile: beezneez16 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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As always Zippy Trish (lol) you talk alot of sense. The positives for me having had the band certainly outweigh the negatives. I also agree with others, why show us a patient who was just getting banded? Why not someone as happy as most of us are who have actually lost the weight thanks to the band.
And as stated before, I know my self when I have troubles with my band, its mostly because I haven't followed all the rules. It does take time to learn to eat slower and smaller, but not impossible. |
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By: unzippin_da_fatsuit 16/11/2009 9:44 am Yahoo! Profile: unzippin_da_fatsuit Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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I just hope that this program does not put of those of us out there who are in desperate need of loosing weight.
It horrifies me to think that some poor person will suffer with limb loss or a life threatening condition due to the sanctomonious dribblings of this nit just for ratings.
And as for the skinny crone sitting in judgement of lapbanders. Has she not read the many volumes written on the viable outcomes of weightloss with diet and exercise alone in the morbidly obese.
Obviously she just wanted to get her head on camera and tout her misinformed vomit.
Do I sound miffed.... |
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By: unzippin_da_fatsuit 16/11/2009 9:35 am Yahoo! Profile: unzippin_da_fatsuit Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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perhaps it would be fair to state that if we should maline the band due to horrible problems such as bowl nicking....then so to we should ban cars because sometimes you can have accidents in them.
Life in general is a lottery....however when I chose the coin flip of the band my odds were much better than driving a car and not having an accident.
If I had not got the band and remained fat ....or indeed just lost the medically recognised 20 kilo weight loss and regain. I would most certainly die of the weight or due to one of the symtoms like the type 2 diabetes that I had developed. If it were a melbourn cup no bookie would have put money on my life expectancy.
However with the band I have lost 65 kilos. my diabetes, high blood pressure and depression are in remission.
I follow the rules no less than if I were driving a car and following road rules. Will I have problems down the road...perhaps, but Im getting older and the problems were looming just as large, probably larger with out the band.
My band is NOT a crutch. Making excuses for not loosing weight is a crutch. My band is my life saver, my life giver and my friend.....though I do admit to having words with it at times.
And as for the dribble of not being able to eat healthy. I eat salad everyday. I eat all ranges of meat and fruit. Just not large portions.
Mike Munro does what he does for money... I call that hypocracy! |
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By: creature_2484 16/11/2009 7:57 am Yahoo! Profile: creature_2484 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| actually they do have a feed back poll! My bad |
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By: creature_2484 16/11/2009 7:56 am Yahoo! Profile: creature_2484 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Hey, i found the show last night totally frustrating. I know most of you agree but mehhh venting!!
Firstly, there biggest complaint about the surgery itself was that its dangerous, and the poor gentlemen who had his bowel nicked and was very ill. Well all surgery has risks and this could have easily happened with any surgery not just the lap band.
Secondly, as a patient of Stephen Blamey "( the Dr giving the seminar) I might be biased about the Bariatric Centre - i found Ch 7 representation of the process terrible. Firstly if your saying they dont do good post operative care they are so far off the mark- i have had troubles with my LB and since July have seen Dr Blamey once a week!!
But i imagine not all clinics are this good, so as Cas said everyone needs to do their research.
Additionally, from my memonry at that seminar they tell you basically if you are self funded and dont have PH they wont do the surgery? so im confused about their comments.
In regards to the funding research, i agree its not ideal. But since when in this world do we live in an ideal world?? Medicine trials and research is run around the world like this. Just ask Johnson & Johnson- one of the largest research centres and businesses!!
Anyways i wish i could whinge to Ch 7! They dont have feedback portal on their website for the sunday night show.
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By: fluffy_puppie 15/11/2009 11:52 pm Yahoo! Profile: fluffy_puppie Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Yes, exactly right.
When I was scoping out my surgeon, his receptionist told me that most of the patients who have had problems had "persisted" with something they shouldn't have. For example they were repeatedly vomitting but didn't modify their meals. I have a friend who used to purge a lot and she slipped her band. The next band was fitted but didn't work the same as she had stretched her stomach permanently.
It isn't easy to follow the rules, though, is it?! We're hardwired to overeat and stuff ourselves. At least I am.
Goodnight :)
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By: losingitbigtime 15/11/2009 11:44 pm Yahoo! Profile: losingitbigtime Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Fully agreee, Cat - but there's another side to it too. Some patients just don't bother following the rules, and therefore end up with problems. It's a two-way street - the patient has to uphold their end of the deal too, otherwise things can - and do - go wrong.
Even the best surgeon may end up with a dissatisfied patient now and again, and it's not necessarily the surgeon's fault. As you say, things also go wrong not due to the surgeon. |
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By: fluffy_puppie 15/11/2009 11:26 pm Yahoo! Profile: fluffy_puppie Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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It is highly important that prospective lapband patients research the competency of their surgeons, including the number of surgeries they've performed. Don't look for a surgeon you like, look for one you know won't mess up the surgery.
That's what I did, anyway.
Then again, things also go wrong not due to the surgeon, but just due to the inherent risks of surgery.
That's my opinion, anyway.
Cat |
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By: casula33 15/11/2009 10:17 pm Yahoo! Profile: casula33 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Hi all
I watched the show there is a risk with any surgery if it goes wrong there is no way of avoiding it if everything was done properly.
I was banded april 06 and i feel more alive now than ever.
I had several health issues that have already improved since i had lap band. if i had it 15 years ago i might no have had those issues as they are weight related.
I am only new to this site but can anyone tell me is there an age limit to be banded. My son is 15 and i see me at the same age . i would like to help him now.
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By: babs40000 15/11/2009 10:10 pm Yahoo! Profile: babs40000 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Hi, I thought this story very tame. This is not new within health or in private hospital industries where drug companies, pathology companies and private hospital boards sponsor deals, conferences, subsidise trips away, supplies or samples so surgeon can experiment a new technique or get much reduced rate for the really neeedy. This has been going on for years. The sad part many involved do not consider this as a conflict of interest.
The story follows the Senate Inquiry report into obesity where 'we need to regulate the cowboys within the industry'. I do not consider Prof. O'Brien a cowboy more like a gentle man who has pioneered a profitable business. IVF is the same with cowboys.
Andy you rock!! Need more success stories of lap banding out there. I am still writing my book 'The Invisable Woman'! No it was not me who googled the Emerald Dr that caused him to be stood aside. Cheez I had moved away from s h t like that. Barb |
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By: andreakrueger27 15/11/2009 9:28 pm Yahoo! Profile: andreakrueger27 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Hi there, gotta tell you that if the drug company didnt give money for research the trials would never be done and would never have been approved for human use. the government cant aforrd the current health system let alone paying for expensive clinical trials so Dr O'Brien takes the money from wherever he can and is a smart enough guy to decide whats the best band to use. He would use whatever gives him the best patient results and him the best reputation as a sugeon. I get my band dec 3 from dr baxter of the sunny coast. Ya hooo!! |
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By: penny.rudge 15/11/2009 9:18 pm Yahoo! Profile: penny.rudge Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| That story was ridiculous! Instead of showing a success story, they showed a girl who had just had it done. As for the man with the problems during surgery, I remember when I had my first consultation with Dr Winnett he made it clear that the bigger you are the more likely chance something might go wrong. That's why people with very high BMI's are operated on in hospitals capable to handle any situation. I didn't like the story, it was too negative. Anyone who is willing to undergo surgery to get a better lease on life is to be admired, it's a huge decision! You're whole lifestyle changes! And to all those people who say it's a "lazy way out", you're an idiot! liposuction is the easy way out! |
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By: lilli2001au 15/11/2009 9:15 pm Yahoo! Profile: lilli2001au Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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I watched the show, I have had the surgey with success and am so happy!
To those who make comment without knowledge, I have only one thing to say.....
Walk a mile in our shoes, then you can comment! |
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By: lilli2001au 15/11/2009 9:15 pm Yahoo! Profile: lilli2001au Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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I watched the show, I have had the surgey with success and am so happy!
To those who make comment without knowledge, I have only one thing to say.....
Walk a mile in our shoes, then you can comment! |
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By: storminateacup74 15/11/2009 6:52 pm Yahoo! Profile: storminateacup74 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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If it's the same story I have seen the ad for I think it is implying the doctor is getting a kickback from the banding company (for promoting and using their brand of band).
Could well be true. I know pharmacy's get dam good stuff for free for suggesting certain brands.
I don't know the doctor at all but I do know that he is a popular choice for people on here. |
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By: hairdresser_1234 15/11/2009 6:50 pm Yahoo! Profile: hairdresser_1234 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| story about to start |
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| story about to start |
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By: teenagersmum 15/11/2009 6:18 pm Yahoo! Profile: teenagersmum Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Hi Yes i am definetly watcheing Proff Obrien did my band and i have no porobs with it at all wonder what the story is about |
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By: hairdresser_1234 15/11/2009 3:39 pm Yahoo! Profile: hairdresser_1234 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| hi is any one going to watch the Sunday program on channel 7 they are talking about lap banding and the horror stories i think. I hope it is not to gorey as it has worked for a lot of people and there will always be some people that it doesnt suit that is with everything what suits one doesnt suit another |
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By: babs40000 14/11/2009 8:20 pm Yahoo! Profile: babs40000 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Jo there is a silicon dressing. I cannot remember the name but it is quiet expensive- $10 each but it saved my skin. The usual- primapore duoderm,micropore, cutifilm plus all latex based. You also need to tell staff as they need to change their gloves from latex. I need to continue to work in health so I stress only skin based allergy. |
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By: lilli2001au 14/11/2009 6:15 pm Yahoo! Profile: lilli2001au Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Planning on having Lapband Surgery?
Have you had Lapband Surgery?
Do you live in Armidale, Guyra, Uralla and surrounds?
I did and I am looking to start a support group local lapbanders in the New England area of NSW.
Contact Elizabeth on 0412 656 872 or email lilli2001au@yahoo.com
or Join us on New England Lapbanders on Facebook |
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By: delia4au 14/11/2009 4:49 pm Yahoo! Profile: delia4au Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Hi Meagan
I have had my gall out and I can and alway have been able to eat anything.
I now if I eat an egg that is not fully cooked will get the trots. I do think this has something to do with the gall but other then that I am fine.
Every one is different with the gall like the band by what I hear.
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By: megz_melb 14/11/2009 2:51 pm Yahoo! Profile: megz_melb Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Hi All, hope everyone is enjoying the gorgeous weather (or for those that don't like the heat are in front of a fan or air con:)
I had my gallbladder out two weeks ago, and was wondering if anyone can give me an idea of how their healing went and problems with eating anything with fat in it or drinking alcohol?
So far I've been keeping to an almost fat free diet as I ate a couple of cup cakes one day when I was at a party & boy did I regret it the next day! The same when I had one glass of wine. Am hoping that this will pass eventually as my body adjusts... hoping for some reassurance that this will pass as my body adjusts....
Meagan :) |
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By: lindaev 14/11/2009 2:07 pm Yahoo! Profile: lindaev Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Hi Mary
No it doesn't contain iron but I don't need it at my age.
Cheers
Linda |
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