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| jodine I agree with what you are saying but I guess the biggest difference I see with between drug addicts, smokers & alcoholics to food-holics is the fact that you can (providing you put in the effort)stop cold turkey without ever having to touch it again, you don't need to keep taking them in order to survive where as it's not so easy with food. But I agree with the fact that in most circumstances we got where we are by ourselves and have no-one to blame except ourselves and we need to work with the band and use it as a tool it's is such a shame that it comes at such an expensive tool available to only those who can afford private health insurance it or as in my case have to go through rigorous paperwork and applications to access my super. Hope you have a great holiday in Bali Pat |
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| not to offend but.. drugs are illegal. you have to seek them out.. food is not and we DID do this to ourselves!! Some people need to take responsiblity for what they are and so do drug addicts both i agree on but I do get sick and tired after 5 years of banding listening to people feel like they deserve sympathy.. support yes 100% but synmpathy for being fat no.. and im still fat so im no preacher but it makes me angry people get on here like they where forced feed and told not to get off their butts! Lap band is a tool not a miracle, Drug addicts dont have tools they are taught to use their will power something we lack!! good luck to every one who gets of their butt and make the band work, and to all the drug addicts wether it alcohol or food my hats off to ya for quitting. No ive never done drugs either! I will be on my second band soon and I dont blame anyone or the band I just want to be healthy, honestly people that come on here need to dont dictate their opinions, Offer them, not tell people how they should live or do what they do, give a positve comment or give example of past but do not tell a bander or someone who is getting banded what to do with such a one sided opinion. Sorry everyone but I kinda peeved on at some comments and have to vent, i leave to go to bali tomorrow and hope i come back in a better frame of mind! had to vent jodine |
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| Why is it that everyone wnats to help drug addicts, alcholics and smokers and they get their treatment free, but we lapbanders are treated so differently. They can live without their addiction, but we can't - we HAVE to eat. No going cold turkey for us. But when we need help it's all our own fault and we should never have let it get this far, we brought it on ourselves blah blah blah! We need help just like the others and there is no more shame in us then them. They get free treatment, why shouldn't we? It's just not fair. |
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| When I looked up the interview on Prime on the internet there was a survey viz Should LB surgery be funded by Medicare. 82% were in favour at the time i was looking. So there the report must not have had much credibility. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| oh man she sounds like a peice of work! Do they think you woke up one day and said "I think I want to be fat! I'm gunna work on that!" she sounds like a really supportive and compasionate person. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| I thought it was interesting that the Dr who is against LB has studied/suveyed 200 people..... That's not a very big percentage of the thousands who have had the procedure. I also think anyone who is turned off LB surgery by one pretty ordinary journalistic venture into it was probably not serious about the surgery to start with. And lastly while I feel very sad for the gentleman who has had such an awful experience, LB surgery is still surgery & while it's a teeny tiny risk,it is a risk and each of us weighs up that risk before we sign on the line. Kate |
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| I found the story very one sided i know someone who had a colonoscopy who had ther bowel nicked and there not banning them .I feel sorry for the guy as he went through hell he was just unfortunate.Where i had my band done we got one year of care with the band and i to am no longer on blood pressure tablets so that has to be a GOOD THING as far as im concerned we wouldnt have had the band if i could do it on my own | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Deb, My grandmother, being from the north of England, had some great replies that always seemed to shut up ignorant, ill- informed, small minded people like your Mother in Law. The one that springs to mind that would have been a great comeback is "Yes, I hear what you are saying, and I've heard ducks fart before......." Ignore the shrew and good luck to you. |
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| sorry that was mother-in-law! lol. no disrespect to debs mum. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Go Deb, I wonder where your mother got her doctorate in obesity!! Why is it that people feel the right to interfere when it comes to obesity but alcoholism and gambling are respected as private problems? Where do people get off? And especially when you are having such great results. I wonder what your mother-in-laws vice is. We all have them. How would she like it if you called her up to degrade her choices and her behaviours? Good on you for hanging up on her! Jo |
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| Some people are SO ignorant, just ignore your mother-in-law, she is a bloody fool! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Some people are SO ignorant, just ignore your mother-in-law, she is a bloody fool! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| LOL she had no right to say anything to you. Good on you for hanging up on her. Linda |
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| ok i am so mad after seeing the mike munro story, i am livid, first of all all of us who have had lapband surgery didnt just get up in the morning and say DER i have nothing to do today i am going to go and have some surgery, all of us have been trying all our lives to lose weight and be healthy and this WAS our last and only hope, and all of us would agree that without the surgery, we would not live long. I had my mother inlaw ring up last night and chastised me for getting the op done who cares that i have lost 27kilos and that i feel fricken fantastic but it was How much weight have you lost now, People are stupid for getting that done its an EASY WAY OUT, and that i should be ashamed with myself for getting that fat anyway. After i dreamed of punching her out hahahah i hung up on her. I love my band and yes we all are warned of the dangers of surgery, any surgery is dangerous and we did not make our decisions lightly, yes there are some people who have had nothing but trouble but surely out of the thousands that have had this surgery, not many of us would say that it was a waste of time. So for all the people out there who think that we are a waste of space and that we should not have let ourselves get like this and who have never ever needed to lose weight and judge other people GO ----Yourselves........... .. love Deb i feel better now thankyou for reading | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| http://au.messages.yahoo.com/tv/tv_general/ That is the discussion thread for Sunday Night's lapband story. I just went there and had a vent! Come on banders!! Cat |
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| As always Zippy Trish (lol) you talk alot of sense. The positives for me having had the band certainly outweigh the negatives. I also agree with others, why show us a patient who was just getting banded? Why not someone as happy as most of us are who have actually lost the weight thanks to the band. And as stated before, I know my self when I have troubles with my band, its mostly because I haven't followed all the rules. It does take time to learn to eat slower and smaller, but not impossible. |
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| I just hope that this program does not put of those of us out there who are in desperate need of loosing weight. It horrifies me to think that some poor person will suffer with limb loss or a life threatening condition due to the sanctomonious dribblings of this nit just for ratings. And as for the skinny crone sitting in judgement of lapbanders. Has she not read the many volumes written on the viable outcomes of weightloss with diet and exercise alone in the morbidly obese. Obviously she just wanted to get her head on camera and tout her misinformed vomit. Do I sound miffed.... |
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| perhaps it would be fair to state that if we should maline the band due to horrible problems such as bowl nicking....then so to we should ban cars because sometimes you can have accidents in them. Life in general is a lottery....however when I chose the coin flip of the band my odds were much better than driving a car and not having an accident. If I had not got the band and remained fat ....or indeed just lost the medically recognised 20 kilo weight loss and regain. I would most certainly die of the weight or due to one of the symtoms like the type 2 diabetes that I had developed. If it were a melbourn cup no bookie would have put money on my life expectancy. However with the band I have lost 65 kilos. my diabetes, high blood pressure and depression are in remission. I follow the rules no less than if I were driving a car and following road rules. Will I have problems down the road...perhaps, but Im getting older and the problems were looming just as large, probably larger with out the band. My band is NOT a crutch. Making excuses for not loosing weight is a crutch. My band is my life saver, my life giver and my friend.....though I do admit to having words with it at times. And as for the dribble of not being able to eat healthy. I eat salad everyday. I eat all ranges of meat and fruit. Just not large portions. Mike Munro does what he does for money... I call that hypocracy! |
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| actually they do have a feed back poll! My bad | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Hey, i found the show last night totally frustrating. I know most of you agree but mehhh venting!! Firstly, there biggest complaint about the surgery itself was that its dangerous, and the poor gentlemen who had his bowel nicked and was very ill. Well all surgery has risks and this could have easily happened with any surgery not just the lap band. Secondly, as a patient of Stephen Blamey "( the Dr giving the seminar) I might be biased about the Bariatric Centre - i found Ch 7 representation of the process terrible. Firstly if your saying they dont do good post operative care they are so far off the mark- i have had troubles with my LB and since July have seen Dr Blamey once a week!! But i imagine not all clinics are this good, so as Cas said everyone needs to do their research. Additionally, from my memonry at that seminar they tell you basically if you are self funded and dont have PH they wont do the surgery? so im confused about their comments. In regards to the funding research, i agree its not ideal. But since when in this world do we live in an ideal world?? Medicine trials and research is run around the world like this. Just ask Johnson & Johnson- one of the largest research centres and businesses!! Anyways i wish i could whinge to Ch 7! They dont have feedback portal on their website for the sunday night show. Cheers |
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| Yes, exactly right. When I was scoping out my surgeon, his receptionist told me that most of the patients who have had problems had "persisted" with something they shouldn't have. For example they were repeatedly vomitting but didn't modify their meals. I have a friend who used to purge a lot and she slipped her band. The next band was fitted but didn't work the same as she had stretched her stomach permanently. It isn't easy to follow the rules, though, is it?! We're hardwired to overeat and stuff ourselves. At least I am. Goodnight :) Cat |
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| Fully agreee, Cat - but there's another side to it too. Some patients just don't bother following the rules, and therefore end up with problems. It's a two-way street - the patient has to uphold their end of the deal too, otherwise things can - and do - go wrong. Even the best surgeon may end up with a dissatisfied patient now and again, and it's not necessarily the surgeon's fault. As you say, things also go wrong not due to the surgeon. |
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| It is highly important that prospective lapband patients research the competency of their surgeons, including the number of surgeries they've performed. Don't look for a surgeon you like, look for one you know won't mess up the surgery. That's what I did, anyway. Then again, things also go wrong not due to the surgeon, but just due to the inherent risks of surgery. That's my opinion, anyway. Cat |
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| Hi all I watched the show there is a risk with any surgery if it goes wrong there is no way of avoiding it if everything was done properly. I was banded april 06 and i feel more alive now than ever. I had several health issues that have already improved since i had lap band. if i had it 15 years ago i might no have had those issues as they are weight related. I am only new to this site but can anyone tell me is there an age limit to be banded. My son is 15 and i see me at the same age . i would like to help him now. Cheers Cas |
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| Hi, I thought this story very tame. This is not new within health or in private hospital industries where drug companies, pathology companies and private hospital boards sponsor deals, conferences, subsidise trips away, supplies or samples so surgeon can experiment a new technique or get much reduced rate for the really neeedy. This has been going on for years. The sad part many involved do not consider this as a conflict of interest. The story follows the Senate Inquiry report into obesity where 'we need to regulate the cowboys within the industry'. I do not consider Prof. O'Brien a cowboy more like a gentle man who has pioneered a profitable business. IVF is the same with cowboys. Andy you rock!! Need more success stories of lap banding out there. I am still writing my book 'The Invisable Woman'! No it was not me who googled the Emerald Dr that caused him to be stood aside. Cheez I had moved away from s h t like that. Barb |
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