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| I'll just pick up on a couple of points bill if you don't mind. I'll start with quackwatch...This would have been one of my first stops, several years ago, when I was first getting into CS, and would never return to read anything else they would have to say as if you dig a little deeper you will find a hidden agenda there like who sponsors/funds that site. "Two products contaminated etc", yep, well if memory serves me correctly, these were proteins which is not true CS. The medium surrounding silver in proteins have been proven to contain bacteria as that same medium becomes a barrier between the silver and the bacteria. This is why I only make and ingest true EICS. "Amount of silver suspended etc", yep, I know that there are many marketers of CS which do contain little silver, and some actually contain none, in them. Another reason I only make and ingest my own. "Argyria", yep, well if researched deeper, and further back than 1995, it will be found that ground silver, powdered silver, silver proteins, compounds, Acetates, Nitrates, adding 'stuff' to the water...etc etc have been the cause of Argyria. True EICS, as produced by todays Low Voltage electrolysis methods, have never been known to cause this. Don't worry my friend, I have researched the subject of CS pretty well over the years. I use it to maintain my health, (among other uses of course), not to destroy it. "Antibacterial activity in laboratory", yep, but I need to know if true EICS was used and what ppm was used as some bacteria is ppm specific. What I mean by this is that some bacteria need more than the traditional low ppm, used as a maintenance program, to be effective. In closing, unless you have a closed mind to CS may I suggest you do plenty of research and put your mind at rest regarding CS usage, I certainly have after endless, exhausting hours of research, but you will need to source better sites than quackwatch. Cheers. |
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| There are numerous studies relating to the dangers of using "colloidal silver" and its "natural" variants. Critical Studies and Case Reports "In 1995, an herbal distributor named LT tested nine commonly marketed colloidal silver products available at health-food stores and concluded: Two of the products were contaminated with microorgms. The amount of silver suspended in solution varied from product to product and would gradually decrease over time. Only five products actually showed antibacterial activity in a laboratory test. To perform the test, she prepared a culture plate with Staphylococcus aureas bacteria, which can cause infections in humans. She then placed a drop from each product on the plate and used disks of two common antibiotics as controls. After eight hours of incubation, she found that bacterial growth had been inhibited around the antibiotics and four of the products. Of course, the fact that a product inhibits bacteria in a laboratory culture doesn't mean it is effective (or safe) in the human body. In fact, products that kill bacteria in the laboratory would be more likely to cause argyria because they contain more silver ions that are free to deposit in the user's skin." For further information a good starting point is quackwatch.org |
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| I think you have summed it up in your closing line..."just so that we have no choice but to buy their antibiotics". You may find this an interesting read, google 'healthcare for dummies' by David Bonello. Good luck with finding "proper studies" and "views of both sides of the argument", I have been researching for a number of years and I haven't found any yet, other than research and reports by the individual scientists who have done their own studies. "Scary stuff", yep, you will find that in abundance, or as I say 'ad nauseum', because that is the sole intent...to scare the beegeebers out of you. No substance, but it grabs the headlines. One might also ask why no 'right of rebuttal' is afforded to anyone by the media to all of this scare mongering...Mmmmmm...Yeah , I wonder about the reason for that too! |
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| I've done a lot of reading about colloidal silver. I've purchased a good brand from my local health food shop and been taking it for 2 months daily. I am about to buy my own machine. I've seen all the scary stuff about it too as per a lot of the posts here. One thing I do note is that where-ever someone has turned blue or grey they have been overdosing on poorly manufactured stuff but what gets me is that they rarely state anything else like - while the person turned blue were they ever sick from colds flu etc. I'd like to hear from someone or a study which shows terms of use and frequency of any ailments or lack thereof. That is - a proper study from an independent source that looks at the views of both sides of the argument. Its not good enough that TGA and Big pharma just choose to close down or regulate these home remedies without proper testing which is lacking - just so that we have no choice but to buy their antibiotics. |
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| They failed to "state the full story" because this story is 40 odd years old and true EICS was NOT the product that turned this woman grey!! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| It occurs to me that this article is more about what it DOESN'T say than what it DOES say. 1). It fails to state any evidence of its non-efficacy, other than to simply make the statement "it has no known therapeutic usefulness"! We don't need to ask where that statement came from...hint...pharma companies and/or government supported! 2). The nose drops referred to was not EICS, (Electrollytic-Ionic Colloidal Silver), but a Nitrate! Big difference. 3). They stopped making and promoting it because the technology was not around back then to produce EICS as we know it today! It was produced by far different methods then than now. 4). Here is the dead giveaway...!! They "don't know how much silver will result in argyria" because there has never been a case reported of EICS causing argyria! 5). The statement regarding "argyria still happens today" is because none of the argyria cases, displayed on the television and in the media, have used EICS produced and ingested in the correct manner. In conclusion, there are simply no facts in this article which can be related to 'true' EICS! EICS is produced by electrolysis and contains ONLY distilled or pure water and silver...NOTHING ELSE! Anything else added to it results in Compounds or Nitrates or Protiens and god knows what else. People need to understand that all the media hype is in relation to WILDLY INDESCRIMINATE use of a product that is NOT true Electro-Ionic Colloidal Silver! |
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| There was this show on the telly called, Ripley's Believe it or not. They featured this woman who had turned grey!!!! - angie they failed to state the full story. In order to make COlloidal silver you are to use distilled water, when in this case he used normal tap water and also added bicarb soda (if im not wrong with the bicarb). lots of information in regards to this grey case along with info on colloidal silver etc found at http://www.silverwell.com.au/ |
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| Coliodal silver is available from most naturopaths and health food stores as far as I know. I have a machine that you put into a glass of water to produce it. I did see a story on TV a while ago about royal families with a blue tinge to their skin, it is believed that the term blue blood comes from a high silver content in their diets, hundreds of years ago when the royal families plates, eating utensils and goblets were made from silver they were ingesting the silver. It also said that most of the royal families didn't suffer from the plage and it is believed it is because they had a high silver content in their bodies. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| There was this show on the telly called, Ripley's Believe it or not. They featured this woman who had turned grey!!!! Doctors said that a scope was used under her skin and it showed that she had silver under her skin! That was due to the supplements of coliodal silver which was recommended to her. You could use this product called Herose. Google it for more info. Good Luck. |
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| Natural substances are the best. You also have to remember that things like coliodal metals are extracted from plants which draw them out of the ground . So the end result can only be as good as the soil it is grown in. That is why so much is being said for organic farming-no chemicals.If you want to read up on something that WILL help, because it is strictly a nutritional thing, read up on the Goji Berry (Lycium Barbarum). | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Just came across some info. that may interest some of you, don't want to knock what some people take but it is important to have all the facts so you can make informed choices. Have a great day! "The truth is that a silver deficiency is not a medically recognized condition; silver is not an essential mineral, has no recognized nutritional value and, when taken by mouth, has no known therapeutic usefulness. Long-term use of silver preparations can lead to argyria, an irreversible condition in which silver salts deposit in the skin, eyes, and internal organs, and the skin turns ashen-gray. Many cases of argyria occurred during the pre-antibiotic era when silver was a common ingredient in nose drops. When the cause of argyria became apparent, medical professionals stopped recommending their use, and reputable manufacturers stopped producing them. The official drug guidebooks (United States Pharmacopoeia and National Formulary) have not listed colloidal silver products since 1975. While the amount of silver required to produce argyria is unknown, the FDA has concluded that the risk of using silver products exceeds any unsubstantiated benefit. Unfortunately argyria still happens today, as people continue to believe in the slick marketing ads that propagate on the radio, television and internet." |
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| I would suggest you buy from a reputable manufacturer. The only one I would ever deal with is www.suttonssolutions.com. au If you send them an email then you can get a booklet which has lots of testimonials from happy users. They make sure each batch is tested by an independant laboratory and are not 'backyarders'. You can get a great product which is made in a laboratory, not in somebody's kitchen like a lot of the others are. |
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| if you are in Tamworth NSW then go visit Nuts and Treats on Bridge Road, the owners there with give you all the info you need and probable be able to get it at a reasonable price too | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Here is a great report on how to make it yourself, all the equipment can be found for a good price at local stores, and it makes good colloidal silver, anyway here is the linky http://zapperplans.com/silver.html I think I'll try it on my skin now. :) |
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| a freind of mine was telling me about this stuff she just bought and she got it in a health food store. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| I have been an avid user of Collodial Silver since my father suggested it over 2 years ago. It helps with the prevention and rapid cure of common ailments, and I suppose each persons immune system will respond individually to its use. Here in NZ it can be found in any health food shop and tends to range in price from as little as $10 to as much as $30 for a decent bottle (lasts a while). Just because one is priced higher doesn't mean it will be better as I used to use a $10 remedy and have found it was just as good as the $25 remedy and all others in between were quite average. I have found it best for internal (colds/flus), it has shortened the time of illness and also Asthma seems to respond well to it. I have heard that when used upon the skin it is a wonderful healer especially with burns victims. Apparently the skin takes to it well. It does have a slight metallic taste but again depends on what brand you choose, some are stronger than others. You can always disolve the taste in purified water. Your healthfood shops and or homeopathics would be your best bet. GOOD LUCK |
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| We puuchased a kit to make our own as it cured my husband of Ross River fever. Contact Wally Green 7 Dee Rd. Milgrove Victoria 3799 ph. 035966-2424. No email address this was about 6-7 years ago. Good luck. |
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| colloidal silver is said to act as a second immune system. My friend had a machine that created colloidal silver water, which gave it a metallic taste. You could send him to a homeopath, this is quite good for skin problems. Homeopathic sulphur might be good, but he'd have to see a homeopath for a proper consultation. |
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| Colloidal Silver is in many organic toothpastes. It is a tooth health agent. Not sure about other uses it may have. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Go to www.google.com, search for colliodal silver. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| My father suffers from Psoriasis very severly and has tried everything i can find from kitchen remedies to emu oils.This coliodal silver was suggested to me but cant find much about it, CAN ANYONE HELP. my dog has a skin irritation also and was suggested this my help her too. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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