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By: bruce_buying_near_the_top
7/07/2009
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By: brukevlay
7/07/2009
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Silver is not going to TALK except cry out "HEEEelllp." But it is going to TANK.

By: brukevlay
7/07/2009
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But the USD is going to remain strong and go up and silver is going to talk big time. I heard it from an expert on Head and Shoulder charts.
You laugh if you want, But this guy ALWAYS gets it right.

By: perceptions_now
7/07/2009
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"U.S. Job Report Suggests that Green Shoots are Mostly Yellow Weeds
Nouriel Roubini | Jul 2, 2009

But eventually, large budget deficits and their monetization are going to lead - towards the end of next year and in 2011 - to an increase in expected inflation that may lead to a further increase in ten-year treasuries and other long-term government bond yields, and thus mortgage and private-market rates. Together with higher oil prices driven up in part by this wall of liquidity rather than fundamentals alone, this could be a double whammy that could push the economy into a double-dip or W-shaped recession by late 2010 or 2011. So the outlook for the US and global economy remains extremely weak ahead. The recent rally in global equities, commodities and credit may soon fizzle out as an onslaught of worse- than-expected macro, earnings and financial news take a toll on this rally, which has gotten way ahead of improvement in actual macro data.
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7/07/2009
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"U.S. Job Report Suggests that Green Shoots are Mostly Yellow Weeds
Nouriel Roubini | Jul 2, 2009
There are also signs that there may be forces leading to a double-dip recession, sometime toward the second half of next year or towards 2011. If oil prices rise too much, too fast, too soon, that's going to have a negative effect on trade and real disposable income in oil-importing countries (US, Europe, Ja p an, China, etc.). Also concerns about unsustainable budget deficits are high and are going to remain high, with growth anemic and unemployment rising. These deficits are already pushing long-term interest rates higher as investors worry about medium- to long-term stability. If these budget deficits are going to continue to be monetized, eventually, toward the end of next year, you are going to have a sharp increase in expected inflation - after three years of deflationary pressures - that's going to push interest rates even higher.

For the time being, of course, there are massive deflationary pressures in the economy: the slack in the goods markets, with demand falling relative to supply-and-excess capacity. The rising slack in labor markets, which are controlling wages and labor costs and pushing them down, implies that deflationary pressures are going to be dominant this year and next year.

By: perceptions_now
7/07/2009
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"U.S. Job Report Suggests that Green Shoots are Mostly Yellow Weeds
Nouriel Roubini | Jul 2, 2009
The June employment report suggests that the alleged 'green shoots' are mostly yellow weeds that may eventually turn into brown manure. The employment report shows that conditions in the labor market continue to be extremely weak, with job losses in June of over 460,000. With the current rate of job losses, it is very clear that the unemployment rate could reach 10 percent by later this summer, around August or September, and will be closer to 10.5 percent if not 11 percent by year-end. I expect the unemployment rate is going to peak at around 11 percent at some point in 2010, well above historical standards for even severe recession.

The other element of the report that must be considered is that, for the summer, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) is still adding between 150,000 and 200,000 jobs based on the birth/death model. We know the distortions of the birth/death model � that in a recession jobs created within firms are much smaller than those created by firms that are dying. So that's distorting downward the number of job losses. Based on the initial claims for unemployment benefits, it's more likely that the job losses are closer to 600,000 per month rather than the figures officially reported.

By: brukevlay
7/07/2009
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To each their own. I prefer to live in the real world and not want some politician or TV channel owner wants to make me believe.
It is not as bad here as the USA. They also have their "Federal" Reserve "educating" the sheeple.

By: jacko654
7/07/2009
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It wont frighten me, Bruce - I'll go and buy a new tv - one that tells me what i want to see and hear.

By: brukevlay
6/07/2009
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"That said, in our short to medium term future, it is likely, that nearly all things are possible!"

Yes, and who knows when my "conspitacy theories" will turn to FACTS. The sheeple will wake up with one hell of a fright when they finally realize the world is not as they see it on their TV.

By: brukevlay
6/07/2009
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"Hmm if your defn of USD tank is to drop to say 80%. That means AUD1 can get USD4. Do you think this is possible?"

I believe there will be another currency to replace the USD as the world's default currency. Talk at the moment is the Russian currency or maybe the Euro or gold which would be the best and only real currency. I think China knows this and will slowly get rid of a lot of it's dollars. It is probably doing that now. It has to do it slowly but the fate of the USD is obvious and that is why gold will do very well and probably in the not too distant future.
Don't take any notice of the morons on this they know bugger all except how to talk stupidity and create dummies.

By: toby_h@ymail.com
6/07/2009
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“Markets Can Remain Illogical Far Longer Than You or I Can Remain Solvent.” - Keynes

By: bruce_buying_near_the_top
6/07/2009
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6/07/2009
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"Hmm if your defn of USD tank is to drop to say 80%. That means AUD1 can get USD4. Do you think this is possible?"

s_step000,
ALL things are possible, but some things are more likely than others.

That said, in our short to medium term future, it is likely, that nearly all things are possible!

By: s_step000
6/07/2009
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""That is why I say watch for the USD to tank and gold will run.
Can anyone with half a brain believe the USD won't tank?"

Hmm if your defn of USD tank is to drop to say 80%. That means AUD1 can get USD4. Do you think this is possible?

By: perceptions_now
6/07/2009
12:32 pm

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There appears to be some consistency at present, not in the markets, yet, but in the way that Jim's posts are treated.

Or, should I say, Deleted!

By: brukevlay
5/07/2009
10:50 pm

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The proof is there they HAVE gone their separate ways recently, you only have to look at their charts you bloody fool!

By: bruce_buying_at_the_top
5/07/2009
5:38 pm

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5/07/2009
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Another view on the deflation problem: Robert Prechter from Elliot Wave International.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBgnV4orB_U

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4/07/2009
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that "temporary flight to safety in US$" will probably spell temporary weakness in gold, as well as other commodities.

The European Central Bank is on pause for the moment but there is still deflationary pressure in Europe.

http://www.bloomberg.com/avp/avp.htm?N=video&T=Bae r's%20Gattiker%20Says%20Stock%20Prices%20May%20Ret est%20March%20Lows%20&clipSRC=mms://media2.bloombe rg.com/cache/vIgTkddtJjAU.asf



"Our wallet is empty. Our bank is closed. And our credit is dried up." - Governor Schwarzenegger

By: brukevlay
3/07/2009
1:24 pm

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"As old habits die hard, there may also be a "tempoarary" "flight to safety, in the US$"?"

I don't believe so. They went their separate way fairly recently and I think that will continue.

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3/07/2009
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"That is why I say watch for the USD to tank and gold will run.
Can anyone with half a brain believe the USD won't tank?"

bruke,
I agree, Gold will continue an upward trend and spike, at some point & the US$ will collapse at some point.

There could also be Debt defaults, but there is a question of timing.

As old habits die hard, there may also be a "tempoarary" "flight to safety, in the US$"?

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3/07/2009
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Just for Mr Crazy Jim pickup-nonsheeple-minime- brucebraindamaged-etc,
An early report, for a change, on the state of US banking, since they have a July 4th holiday tomorrow.
The reason it's special Jim, is that they have their ID DAY tomorrow, so you can celebrate with them!

Of course, Jim, you celerbrate ID DAY, everyday, don't you?

AND, the news today is, 7, yes that's right, SEVEN BANKS GONE TODAY.

That seems to confirm that the pace is quickening, along with other indicators, such as the US Unemployment!

You'all have a nice day now, ya-hear?

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http://www.fdic.gov/bank/individual/failed/banklis t.html

By: brukevlay
3/07/2009
10:21 am

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"looks like we are still connected to the US?"

Always were and always will be, perceptions.

That is why I say watch for the USD to tank and gold will run.

Can anyone with half a brain believe the USD won't tank?

Jason Foolhardy is excepted even though he believes the opposite, as dummies don't have a brain.
I don't believe the Jury is out on the question of him being a Crazyfool dummy anymore. Enough evidence is there, especially over the last few months to show he is.

By: perceptions_now
3/07/2009
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DOW is DOWn 225, OZ futures down 82, looks like we are still connected to the US?

U.S. Economy: Job Cuts in June Deeper Than Forecast
July 2 (Bloomberg) -- Employers in the U.S. cut more jobs than forecast in June and the unemployment rate rose to the highest in almost 26 years, offering scant evidence the Obama administration's stimulus package is putting Americans back to work.

Payrolls declined by 467,000 last month following a 322,000 drop in May, according to Labor Department figures released today in Washington. The jobless rate rose to 9.5 percent, the highest since August 1983, from 9.4 percent.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&si d=aEZLY5Qi3kdA

By: brukevlay
1/07/2009
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Also have a look at KCN, Wolf.
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