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By: smart.moves2000
8/08/2007
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Remember nothing has changed there is really no need to jump back into the markets ahead of the sheep take you time you still have plenty of time to profit in the face of continued market manipulation. If you need to continue making a profit AG continues higher and crude and precious metals lower while the FX currencies are ever more volatile. You may find a nice return investing in the Australian interest rates, in the face of an ever tightening credit and lquidity market place.

Remember, a bird in the hand is better than two in the Bush!

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By: smart.moves2000
8/08/2007
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The bigger picture as this intraday begins we find that crude is expect to retrace further as should precious metal with gold retracing over the short term to near 659 and as the EURO and GBP we will find continued weakness even in the face of the Ch!nese threats. Moving to global trade expectations will be that the Asian markets will retrace with their continued threats, sadly rather than the Ch!nese government finding a solution to their manufacturing problems and the continued degrading of their AG products. One would think that on a global score that the EU and UK would react harshly considering that of all the global players they have the most stringent product quality regulations.

Expect more of the same remember it is better to stay local rather than trying to catch growth in a falling global market place. I was ever so glad to see the Australian Central Bank take the high road on inflation further proof that you have the one of the last of the truly responsible governments. I expect the markets will met this with huge gains in the face of a weaker global economy, as we sit and anticipate BOE will continue their spin on the current state of the economy.

Here is my take, in the US the subprime problem has been less than 1% of all mortgage weakness and yet BOE with a larger number by percentage makes claims that housing is not a problem but what seems ever more incredible is that as the industrials and manufacturing number are by far strong enough to tout increased long term growth while rising wages and inflation continue to remain a firm factor.

It seems that just as in this country tell the masses nothing is wrong and all is well, just does not work over the time factor.

If one wishes to find truth in an ever turbulent financial environment look to the SWISS this intraday!

Remember nothing has changed there is really no need to jump back into the markets ahead of the sheep take you time you still have plenty of time to profit in the face of ...

By: legsio
8/08/2007
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copper on its way down...if it continues I will be going Short on RIO and OXR tomorrow

By: smart.moves2000
8/08/2007
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Often we speak as if we expect that a rouge group (need not mention any names here in the US take control and run a muck) can continue on this path of privateer-ing without consequence. Therefore if not for global monitors these rouges would have continued. It has always been my personal belief that this administration has not once ever considered the problems they have caused; rather they only have been loyal to their personal greed. One need only look to the US Port deal they tried to sneak through the government.

Therefore, if not for the IMF and the group of central banks throughout the world we would surely have seen the current economic woes would surely have been far greater.

That was my point.

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By: smart.moves2000
8/08/2007
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Often we speak as if we expect that a rouge group (need not mention any names here in the US take control and run a muck) can continue on this path of privateer-ing without consequence. Therefore if not for global monitors these rouges would have continued. It has always been my personal belief that this administration has not once ever considered the problems they have caused; rather the only has been loyalty to greed.

Therefore, if not for the IMF and the group of central banks throughout the world we would surely have seen the current economic woes would surely have been far greater.

That was my point.

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By: smart.moves2000
8/08/2007
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brukevlay

Honesty is really not the factor; the factor is what the global central banks collectively have in the productivity growth game play. Let me put it to you this way, "What if for what ever reason Ch!na made the A$$inine move of dumping the USD, what do you believe the IMF and central banks would have to do in order to prevent a crash of the own currencies?" Ch!na has greater problems in its future for example environmental concerns have never been greater as potable water becomes more and more difficult to find, deforestation and social conditions, nope expect Ch!na aat this juncture has little strength. If not for the concern of the world that Ch!na not much different from India have had little concern for their respective environments and social expansion. I suppose one would only have to look to each of those nations and formulate the longer term problems that wait.

So, you see any international threats would be met with global decent and the results would be harsh not to western government but to Asian as it would be further proof that the Asian government react more like children rather than that of responsible global trade partners.

Just as I have stated before we look to the global heads to find balance in a turbulent economic situation, for without confirmation by global governments the longer term understanding that we are all part in part more concerned about Australian economic stance as we are for the Brazilian.

The world has changed I believe for the better where before US domination of global trends rather today we have seen strength is cooperation vs., individualism.

This is the major cause that nations such as Russia and Venezuela or for that matter Iran can not sustain viable growth or stability in an ever volatile world economy.

Often we speak as if we expect that a rouge group (need not mention any names here in the US take control and run a muck) can continue on this path of privateer-ing without consequence. Therefore ...

By: anthony_sadgrove
8/08/2007
3:18 pm

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political repression is alive and well

By: brukevlay
8/08/2007
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I'm talking about central banks not governments. All the best politicians reside in the cemetery. I know that but any what are you getting at?

By: aussiebuggaa
8/08/2007
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Bramble (BXB) share price is going nuts with the take over from AIO.

By: brukevlay
8/08/2007
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Who?..................... ......................

By: anthony_sadgrove
8/08/2007
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no - not that obvious

By: brukevlay
8/08/2007
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Do you mean Martin Bryant?

By: anthony_sadgrove
8/08/2007
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what makes you so sure of that?

By: brukevlay
8/08/2007
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Yes but ours don't do away with anyone who displeases them.

By: anthony_sadgrove
8/08/2007
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not just the US Fed but ALL central banks - including our own RBA

By: brukevlay
8/08/2007
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Smart, What is your message? Are you trying to say the "Federal" Reserve is honest?

With regards to Greenspan's "Central banks stand ready to lease gold in increasing quantities should the price rise." I understand intervention is sometimes necessary to maintain an orderly market in times of high volatility and IF this is done in those times I have no objection to that (although I wonder why the limit up and limit down was done away with.) Not really, it would be naive of me to wonder that. BUT what happens is they enter the market at ANY time to manipulate it. NOT just in times of high volatility.
Smart, I would like anybody to tell me who is more dishonest in this world than the "Federal" Reserve. Impossible to do.

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8/08/2007
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8/08/2007
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http://www.gata.org/search/node/RBA

By: smart.moves2000
8/08/2007
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brukevlay

Do me a favor and take a look at this then you may fine that it is not all the work of the US Federal Reserve.

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/decade/decad047. htm

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By: smart.moves2000
8/08/2007
11:33 am

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Because the Emerging markets continue to fall, combined with Germany's and Italy's industrial production numbers down on todays reports EURO down While UK industrial were in line the manufacturing was down and Sowood Capital Management another Hedge Funds takes a 60% loss returns 1.4 B to investor. In June Sowood had better than 3B.

I'm telling you the EURO markets are none the better and with further declines expected the emerging markets will follow. US with the economic number have fared none the better. The real global strength has been the PACRIM and lower Asia with Ch!na's lack of constraint inflations has been run away and at this point in global trade and open and free floating Yuan are the only hope Ch!na has to control growth and inflation not to mention the enviromental concerns.

Yes, indeed a continuation of the current declines is calculated I could go into great detail. Maybe at another time as I am still calculating more economic numbers.

AG Futures Up again Metals weak and down crude continues lower. As the holiday Season nears the economic numbers will decline further as demand and orders decline.

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By: anthony_sadgrove
8/08/2007
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Central Banks - RBA - RESERVE Bank - what reserves? no gold, no silver, just paper. They've probably got more paper than REFLEX and worth just as much

By: brukevlay
8/08/2007
11:20 am

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..... Answer - At the same place it was when Congress handed over to President Bush the power to make war.......Richard Russell.

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Richard Russell hits the nail right on the head. You won't hear about this in the mainstream media anytime soon. Unlike the MSM, Richard Russell is independent - beholden to no advertisers. He can say what he wants; he is free to speak the truth.

Will the public ever wake up to what is going on with our money supply, and "finally get rid of the whole private money business along with its nonstop production of intrinsically worthless fiat money?" The first step towards that goal is awareness.

Since the Fed is worried about excessive inflation - which it has been creating itself, perhaps it is time for it to create a little deflation, i.e. monetary destruction. By limiting the supply of credit, assets that rely on ever increasing amounts of credit creation begin to lose value or disappear altogether. For those of you who think that deflation is impossible, I direct you to one of the most profound comments ever to appear on Bull! Not bull:

I am fascinated by the common perception that the Federal Reserve is a proven non-stop inflation machine. Inherently, the Federal Reserve uses inflation and deflation to whipsaw the average bystander out of his savings. I don't see how one economic machination is more favored over the other when the goal is to ensure that the public's savings ends up in the accounts of the shareholders of the Federal Reserve System..........Michael Nystrom

By: brukevlay
8/08/2007
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CENTRAL BANKS - I get a kick out of all these central bank governors, both here and overseas, constantly warning us about the "terrible danger of inflation." What a bunch of snake-oil salesmen these guys are. It's the central banks themselves that are pumping out all that extra fiat money that is creating the inflation. It's like an AIDS carrier indulging in all the sex he can handle while simultaneously warning about the spread of the disease.

So what's it all about with these central bankers? Simple, they like their cushy jobs along with the perks, and the only thing they're worried about is that the world will get wise to the central bank/fiat money racket, and maybe kill the beast. In other words, the central banks are afraid that voters will finally get rid of the whole private money business along with its nonstop production of intrinsically worthless fiat money.

You see, a real headwind of inflation would anger the public, in which case a few intelligent journalists might start putting the blame where it belongs - on the central banks, not the least of which is our own Federal Reserve. No, too much inflation, surging inflation, would be dangerous - it might expose the Fed and the central bankers for what they are - engines of inflation. When you've got a great racket going, like taking control of a nation's money, you want to protect that racket.

So its no wonder that the governors of our Federal Reserve take turns "warning us" about inflation while simultaneously telling us that "they'll keep everything under control." It's enough to cause this editor to "throw up his cookies." The curse of the Fed - it keeps going on and on and on. These freebooters know how to protect their racket. Create inflation, hide the evidence (as they did when they hid the figures on the broad M-3 money supply) and bravely act as our "protectors and saviors." Q.Where was Congress when the Federal Reserve was first approved in 1913? A....you will have to wait... ...

By: brukevlay
8/08/2007
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Smart,
How do you know it will get crushed tomorrow? I agree it will get crushed but my crystal ball does not tell me any specific day.

Go and have a good drink. It is never to late to pi$$ on the (George) Bush fire.

By: smart.moves2000
8/08/2007
6:02 am

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Market will get crushed tomorrow, crude, precious metals and equities especially.

Stay aways it is only going to get hotter as the head fake increase.

May have to sit out all of equities long than I originally forecast as the markets setup an impressive Head Fake.

Don't just hand you monies over make them work for it.

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