By: bbeaver_19
16/08/2007
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Twas a sh!te day on the market,
The beaver just said farrk it,
Reporting seasons fine,
It's all about subprime,
Whilst everyone asks why,
The beaver says to buy |
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By: tradermum
16/08/2007
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| I hope you are right.I have found it difficult to short successfully, much easier to profit going long. |
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By: smart.moves2000
16/08/2007
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Short covering will begin tomorrow and go into Friday great time to make up some of those loss days.
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By: smart.moves2000
16/08/2007
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Who gives a S HIT about that clown and his cronies I for one have had y fill when his father and Reagan were in office never trusted them never will.
As for myself I am a Professional trader and beat the drums on any trade I can find profitable.
And right now shorting the EURO, GBP going long on the JPY and USD short Gold and precious metals and like wise crude.
I find strength in global banks like those in the EU, UK and Australia I estimate by Friday at the earliest at which time I will go long these institutions.
You should not doubt my intelligence as I have a better than 85% profit rewards ratio.
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By: smart.moves2000
16/08/2007
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ROTFLMAO
Sounds kind of like you must surely be a short!
Or just can not BS those with your DOOM and GLOOM!
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By: brukevlay
16/08/2007
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| Don't forget what I said about bush fires. |
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By: brukevlay
16/08/2007
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Smart,
Do you bash your fellow American's ears as much as you bash the Aussie's?
Most men complain they can't get a word in sideways when their wife is around. I somehow think it would be your wife doing the complaining at your house. |
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By: smart.moves2000
16/08/2007
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I believe by Friday banks, mortgage bankers and financial institutions will have bottomed at which point never will there be a better time to load up on these shares as the future global growth will become dependent on their continued growth, just as the credit unions on the micro levels.
No fellow I am a buyer and once gold retraces just as with financial I am a buyer likewise, energy in particular crude I will not be a buyer till it retraces to very near 55USD to 60USD which I believe we will see sooner than most expect as technologies begin to make great strides.
But remember this; the Baby Boom Generation are not a bunch of old fools rather the creators of the future for generations to come.
La Vita et Bella!
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By: smart.moves2000
16/08/2007
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The fact remains that Ch!na will have a great deal of influence in the future of our world both economically and environmentally which makes their level of importance just as that of Germany, UK , Australia and the US equals and equally responsible for the future generations of this ever shrinking world.
Seems just as so many wish to continue the gold standard many would like nothing more than to keep these as they were in as recent as the 1990’s Bush administration and the 2000’s Bush administration where guns for drugs have ruled. No longer are we looking strife in the face but rather friendship and equality. Now, we still have a few nations of the likes of Russia, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba and a few others that would wish for nothing more than strife and hatred but to no avail the new age of the X generation is upon us. Where technology has moved the act of war to second from midnight, understanding this fact makes it ability to commit global genocide a reality. Where whole cultures can instantly disappear from civilization and history, the important question is why must we go to those extremes and is it so impossible to except the differences whether they are religious or cultural? I believe as a citizen of this wonderful world our differences are in reality not so different, I like rice how many on the other side of this beautiful world like rice? How about working, pants, reading, playing chess and mai jong, laughing with my children, building a house or simply walking on a clean beach? All these things that are important to the Ch!nese citizen are equal important to all of us.
So, you see we are not all that different nor are we inclined to let the Ch!nese economy to move into a depression and those that believe that we in the west will see a depression of the likes of that of our parent and their parent are mistaken.
I believe by Friday banks, mortgage bankers and financial institutions will have bottomed at which point never will there be a better t ... |
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By: smart.moves2000
16/08/2007
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It seems that so much importance has been placed on the old age of trading when one would trade an apple for precious metals or gems when in fact since the introduction of Carl Marks views on industrialization we as a global citizen have realized that one time and efforts in actuality have greater value than precious metal or gems.
What we have learned is that the street sweeper in fact has equally an important position as the banker and vice a versa but indeed we have to understand commitment and investment to education and prosperity of the street sweeper makes the contribution of the banker ever more important to the street sweeper and just as the physician is ever more important to the continued growth and health of civilization but even more important than all is the entrepreneur with innovation and invention.
With that out of the way we look to the future both short and long term in the short term we find that banks are being reined in as they have over speculated since the mid 1990’s and further more in the US alone the attacks and disruptions on the savings and loan industry was and continues to be the blight and currently what we have seen is the next round of attacks being directed to the credit unions. Why? The reasoning is simple as the working class citizens will always need a financial centre that accommodates their needs without the added loan rate premiums that the national banking systems impose. To expand on global expansion and growth we would have to sit and discuss a vast array of subject of which it makes impossible to do in a simple response to a message board post.
What I will say is that the doom and gloom forecasters have never been more outrageous mostly because this is nothing more than a global correction. Never in history has Ch!na and it citizens been so importantly calculated into the global economic growth scheme and with the desired interest of Ch!na the western government but mostly the citizens have agreed that Ch!na i ... |
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By: smart.moves2000
16/08/2007
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perceptions_now
http://disciplinedinvesting.blogspot.com/2007/04/b aby-boomers-they-just-might-impact.html
The very most important factor when considering the current Macro and Micro situation continues to be relative to the pace at which the Baby Boom Generation opts to retire. As we have noticed many consider retirement as our father and grandfather did when in fact retirement simply means find other interest. Now that we have that out of the way we not only find that more Baby Boomers are redirecting the assets and wealth but are in fact creating extreme growth even before they change career directions. Understanding the time lines is just as critical when calculating the future economic trends and industrial growth, we have already seen the impact they are currently making in Ch!na making inroads where there once was no hope, finding equality when once they were separations. Being Ch!na and the wealth of generations we as a civilization have taken notice that acceptance an compassion for ones quality of life is ever more important as the globalization of our worlds meet. Where once there was division there now is hope and concern.
As the Baby Boomer born between 1946 and 1964 (+/- a year or two) we find that the accumulated nominal wealth is in fact in the hundred of Trillions and when calculating real assets the real wealth expands to better than Triple that nominal numbers. This in it self will fuel the economic growth trends for at the very least the next 50 to 70 years, if risk management becomes the rule by Central Banks and global Governments. Never in history have the future generations been financially healthier with all the educational infrastructures, manufacturing, industrials, energy, staples, bio technologies and technologies been in handed to the next generations with so much global economic potential. It seems that so much importance has been placed on the old age of trading when one would trade an apple for precious metals or gems when i ... |
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By: perceptions_now
15/08/2007
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What of the future?
If some things don’t seem to fit past patterns, it’s because this has never happened before.
Whatever the future outcomes, previous growth patterns are about to end.
Beyond Peak Oil and as Baby Boomers retire, then leave us in increasing numbers, is a re-balancing of Demographic and Economic levels, on a massive scale.
The very basis of modern life will be shaken, the magnitude of the quake, will be 9.9.
As always we have choices, but this Tsunami wave is about to come ashore and we are leaving it very late!
Good luck and watch your debt! |
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By: perceptions_now
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Population Dilemma
Isn’t Perception a wonderful thing?
Some would say, this is as good as it gets!
Others would say, we are knocking at the doors of a nightmare!
The likely truth is that we are in transit between both.
The Dilemma
If we continue the 1945 to 2000 population growth trend, we will decimate the planets natural resources and climate, by the end of this century and the survival of future generations will be at great peril.
The alternative is to slow or actually reverse the population trend, which may save the planet and humanity. However, the world economy would go into recession, followed by depression, before eventually recovering after a very long time.
How did we get here?
It took all of history, up to the year 1800 AD, to get our first Billion people.
Baby Boomers, were the 3rd and 4th Billion and we are now past 6 billion.
The population explosion really took off in 1945, it Peaked in 1956, then levelled out and recently the total global growth has started to slow.
Over the last 60 years, we have seen the upside of that population explosion, as an economic wave gathered momentum, increasing to a Tsunami over the last 15 years.
Where are we now?
In economic terms, the primary driver of the real global economy is consumer demand.
The largest demand driver is the 45-55 age group, primarily out of the USA, due their big earning and spending capacity.
However, the economic benefits created by the Boomer generation have Peaked, as Boomers move into retirement saving mode.
Global consumer demand is starting to decline, as the people numbers and wealth of the generations following the Baby Boomers, are substantially less than and costs are also increasing, due to the pension and medical benefits that go with an aging population.
Oil has also Peaked, again causing consumer demand to slow and costs to increase.
We are now, at the top of a once in history Population Growth Mega Cycle.
What of the future?
If some things don’ ... |
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By: smart.moves2000
15/08/2007
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More of the same EURO GBP going lower and Precious Metals expected to retrace quite a bit more moving forward. Look for the Carry Trade to continue to unwind while it was greatly expect to end soon seems it has indicated that it will take most likely another 5 intraday before every order clears.
I believe the best action continues to be no action wait for bottoms to confirms until then buy some more Australian Bonds no more than 10% of your portfolio should be bonds and precious metal but remember now is the time to short precious metals and crude still looking to go lower.
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By: anthony_sadgrove
15/08/2007
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| overbought??? ZFX is now at P/E of 5! |
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By: pol_pak
15/08/2007
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Whilst a little out from my comfort zone, agree with conclusion of smart.moves2000 :
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What we will have in the next few week will be corrections throughout the markets on most all overbought and over speculated stocks. My recommendation is sit tight consider the Australian pime rates and most here can make a nice profit.
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Prefer buy then sell so locking in some profit - part cash and part extra shares in my longer term portfolio.
Whilst prefer offload short terms, to begin IMHO each needs be suitable to hold longer term. |
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By: aussiebuggaa
15/08/2007
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People can’t really type when they’re panic!! @?> ~_*Y#) #E*&_ $Ae-+ @#$)(*Y
Also when the tape is red, there is nothing to talk over each other about. Or they can talk about how much more they have lose, “OH Yeah my stocks dropped 20% already, Haha you’re only down 10%, su@ker~”. - Just an idea! |
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By: kilpspringer
15/08/2007
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| quite around here these days!!! |
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By: smart.moves2000
13/08/2007
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Although I kind of agree with your post it lacks understanding mainly because as the demand and supply expanded so has inflation and if you understand Macroeconomics then you can realize the balance over the past 50+ years.
Without a doubt this is a game of pitch and toss and odds are he who has the most continues to have the odds of winning in their favor.
For those of you Doubting Thomases just take a look at this
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=shld&hl=en
Mr. Lampert took this retailer and turned it into a Hedge Fund on Friday the retailers were down and when the central banks injected the liquidity they rose just as financial and banks while the retail industry struggled.
This list of financials is one of the longest group of one day gainers I have seen in a the industry on a very long time and this is just a sampling.
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:LM
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:LAZ
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:AB
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:BLK
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:AMP
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:LNC
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:FFG
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:NFS
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=BAC&hl=en
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=c&hl=en
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By: perceptions_now
12/08/2007
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Perception, really is a wonderful thing.
Try not to read too much into what is happening and don't expect too much from governments.
No, they are not stupid, but neither are they incapable of making mistakes.
When all is said and done, they are only made up of people, who can get it wrong, just like you and me.
If you play sport/games, you will know that there are many end results possible and just about as many ways of arriving at those results.
The causes underlying the 1929 depression are not being repeated now.
What's in play now is something else, something more than the usual greed.
In economic terms, what's in play is the basic demand & supply cycle, except this is a once in history cycle.
We have had the biggest demand driven boom in history, it has lasted over 60 years, now we will have the downturn we have to have, because it started some 50 years ago.
As I said, don't rely on govenments, as they have known for some time, there just isn't much they can do.
Good luck and stay away from debt! |
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By: smart.moves2000
12/08/2007
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Those of you that have been reading my post for sometime can attest that I had been watching as the EURO and GBP bloated and warned that the AUD and CAD were trailing close behind then mad rush to play the carry trade and derivatives markets. What you should realize is that the manipulation and speculation is very much alive and well and for those of you that think that these big money players are not P!ssed you are mistaken to say the least, they are bent on recouping their loss and guess who they need to pay and play? That’s right the retailers, all of them! With 10’s of thousands of institutions, banks, brokers and hedge funds they either screw each other or the retailer. The question is which will it be?
Smoke and mirrors will be the next method of manipulation once they get enough players in they will pull the rug out from under them. Now, this has been incredible to say the least of all watch as the banks in Ja P an reports huge gains this next earning period. So, where to can one Buy low and sell high? Now, the manipulators will try to suck more retailers into the crude play, let me make this easy crude is done. I recommend you buy a minimum hedge in precious metal 5% or 10% now this is the physical there are only a few ETF’s that will pay in the physical and those I recommend. Buy real estate at discounted prices do some Due Diligence and find out what the market values are in the area and do not pay more than 70% of the appraisal most of all look for farms and ranch lands.
Sub prime Hog wash! Manipulation and over speculation that is what happened and continues on the increase, these pigs need to slaughter some retailers and they are looking for you to pay for their over zealous greed.
Get ahead of the curve and stay well!
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By: smart.moves2000
12/08/2007
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No depression not now!
As I monitor the global markets and all the manipulators and speculators what have found is that these crooks have shook the money tree several times since April. I watched as retailers and retirement accounts set their stop loss and every time losing. When the SL kicked in the next move the security moved up and locked them out while institutions, banks brokers and hedge funds bought the security up. By placing the stop loss the institutions, bankers, brokers and hedge funds could read the place pulling the stock past the point of no return and this happened over and over. So who do you suppose has been accumulating shares on the cheap?
All those that did not get out at the top or near the top missed the round as the big money pushed, pulled and shook the money tree. Then as time passed and the security moved the big monies continued their play on the derivatives markets making the security rise and fall at will. As the central banks member banks required more funds they kept building in the carry trade as their speculation began to crumble they found the EURO and GBP declining as the JPY and USD rose. This is where the time element began to become too heavy even for the central banks to carry.
Obviously as they turned off the credit lines while the squeeze continued (now this is a perfect example of a lack of risk management) the currencies continued to declined against the JPY and USD even the AUD and the CAD declined the squeeze mounted and with nowhere to go the carry trade began to unwind, hence the squeeze was complete. Ja P an runs better than 10 Trillion in carry trade on most intraday of trading. The squeeze affected the EU and GBP most in the tune of 100's of Billions and the US in 10's of Billions. Now, here’s where the multiples get really interesting as most banks had to cover their interest due then add to that the accumulated loss.
Those of you that have been reading my post for sometime can attest ... |
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By: rareearthjunior
12/08/2007
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Check-out GDR ~ goldstar res. Plenty of potential.
Prob find that in short term, current price is cheap; definitely bargain compared to long term investmt.
Personal opinion. Cheers. |
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By: rainmanhey
12/08/2007
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| So many people are talking GOLD! Any stocks more preferrable than others in the current environment? |
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By: brukevlay
12/08/2007
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Perceptions,
"Wholesale Bank banruptcy, yes, we have had that before, it was called The Great Depression!
Lets hope that it's not what it seems?"
It very well could be. Crashes are what the Elite/Illuminati want.
I suppose you looked at that link I sent. If not I'll send it again.
It is NOT from any conspiracy site.
"When in doubt get out." If you must be in, the safest thing is gold. |
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