By: vincenthavelundstephens
6/07/2009
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stillonebetterthanyou,Why young man I hope my head is on my shoulders as it has been for many years, and as for maturity well I guess that’s a matter of opinion, but its not a bad idea to be a bit juvenile at times, especially if your hurting no one else. It seems you perceive me as trying to be something I am not according to you, how do you know what I am are you reading between the lines?
No you stick to reading up on books, I am referring to having worked at one of these major American Institutions not just reading, and I don’t suffer from a pseudo intellectual complex do you? My learning hasn’t all been from books its mainly been from the coal face, I was also of a big family 10 actually, but so what that was pretty normal for those times.
Frankly I think you have your perception of money flows that created the present day problems very wrong, but that’s your problem not mine, I doubt if you can read a balance sheets let alone do an analysis of what you are talking about. As for reading between the lines, we do that only if the original lines make sense, if not ignore them.
I don’t think generation that went before went wrong, we didn’t have drug problems, nor did we have so many situations that are prevalent today. It was also rare that our wives worked instead of being home with the children, dad had to bring in the income, we didn’t have two income families.
Look you have your opinions I have mine, why do you think I am trying to elevate myself, don’t you think maybe I am a bit old for false opinions of myself, rather I might be just an old guy enjoying interacting with whoever. Since you don’t like my text or me, why don’t you ignore it and ignore me, neither of us will care not at all, Vince
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By: stillonebetterthanyou
6/07/2009
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Vince
For one who likes to portray himself as well read and educated your ability or lack of it to read between the lines is astounding,
Its usually taken as a sign of immaturity but you claim to be 73 so one has to wonder where exactly your head is at.
Obviously interscreener is of the opinion that the american lead to date in its control of financial systems worldwide is not only dishonest but functions badly long term,and usually means the rest of the world ends up paying for their mistakes deliberate or otherwise including the dishonest elements that have contributed to their financial meltdown;
Some institutions have actually helped to instigate the current situation for their own benefit and if you read up enough on the histories of banking institutions as well as other organizations,you dont have to be very clever to start getting a picture of what's been happening behind closed doors.
In days gone by before most of the western population were sufficiently educated and before a lot of knowledge was public as it is now over the internet these organizations were able to repeat over and over certain procedures that enabled them to become extraordinarily wealthy at the expense of people who were just everyday workers and not 'in the know'.
Everthing has changed now especially with the younger generation still with a quest for knowledge, as most young people have,still wanting to make the world a better place ,as most young people want to,still trying to work out where, generations that went before,went wrong.
Young people crave a happy world .It upsets them to see the trials and tribulations of their fellow men and those who care will always try and do something about it.
So the first thing they will do is to look around and try and work out what is the root cause of the problem.
I want them to find it and Im not too old yet to put a damper on their belief that this generation might be the lucky one for all humanity.
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By: vincenthavelundstephens
6/07/2009
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Hi All,
It’s confusing to me what this blog is all about, initially it seemed to be about the future failure of America, but there is little that remarks on that intended subject. First the Federal Reserve isn’t a private cartel it’s just the same as our RBA here and quite right it is independent, but must work within the scope of its political masters. Our RBA also controls the interest rates and the money created by Govt policy, this is exactly the same as the AFR, it’s foolish to claim otherwise.
What is interesting is how we must pay interest on the money so created, this helps power inflation and is a debt carrying the accruals for our children to pay capital and interest.
Some of the books being quoted must be written by the infirm of mind authors who need to sensationalize their subject to create sales to the wide eyed ones who don’t see common sense.
Our RBA is the same as is the AFR in America. Our Judicial System is also similar but wrongly we still have the Governor General we has a farcical situation as happened when Kerr sacked Whitlam, as the representative for the queen of England, which is an indictment of our Australian situation.
It’s a little silly to try and pre empt what the Yanks will do ie if they should slide back into their shell and move for a policy of isolationism we will all be struggling. The Americans are able to sustain themselves quite well without anybody else.
If there should be a retraction and the West forsakes the Chinese and change direction the global village concept will fail and massive inflation will result, because our cost structures have been forced down by the Asian giants. We need to remember the Asians don’t have the infrastructure far from it they are busy building etc etc; but there’s a hell of a long way to go.
It depends how these inequalities are dealt with whether we come through unscathed, but know this we cannot afford to give too much away. Vince |
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By: stillonebetterthanyou
6/07/2009
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THANKS for creating this new topic interscreener.
I think it will seperate the men from the boys or the women from the girls!
Thanks to having my being ID banned yet again,I have had to do an add on to my original ID,so the idiots who spend so much time trying to limit free speech on these threads are actually doing me a favour,by giving me incentive to be more creative which is fun fun fun.
I like the way you do your research thoroughly and present the facts as they are.
Keep it coming.Im learning a lot.
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By: tigereye670
6/07/2009
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Thanks Jay,
Geothermal for eg is progressing in Oz, eg in Geelong where i live & other states. So there r technically, environmentally & economically viable alternatives to beat traditional technology.
The logic of skeptics is amazing sometimes. They cant prove they r right but r more than happy to risk the destruction of civilisation or the human race if they r wrong, which is a 50-50 chance if they inadequate scientific evidence to prove otherwise. Just because science cant prove our affect on GW now doesnt mean GW doesnt exist, or that GW will stop until science does finally prove it. Well spent money will help both the environment & therefore humans, but also the economy with new superior technology. People shouldnt think its the economy vs the environement. We can have both if done properly. cheers all... |
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By: jaymarcel
6/07/2009
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Hi tigereyes, Good comments I'm with you there mate. Unfortunately whether GW is true or not can never be proved as the only way to prove or disprove it is to see how it all turns out then go back in time & do it all differently.
Some of the things out there that are polluting should never have been allowed in the first place.
Before we start looking at nuclear powerstations in Australia we need to consider if what other countries are doing with their nuclear waste is appropriate & whether we should follow this path. |
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By: tigereye670
6/07/2009
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Anyway, you can have a prosperous economy with minimal pollution if u put the effort & resources into it. The new technologies (eg geothermal energy) will mean clean green energy at competitive prices to polluting industries, especially if u take cleaning up the pollution into account. Proper recycling will mean infinite reuse of resources.
Basically, work smartly with nature and you will prosper, work against it and u will eventually suffer, as civilizations have experienced for thousands of yrs; who used up there immediate resources and over utilized their land to cause barren fields, treeless mountains, etc, etc which caused their civilizations to collapse under their own weight.
Be sceptical all u want but that does not excuse u from keeping the environment healthy for yourself and your children. No excuse whatsoever! |
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By: tigereye670
6/07/2009
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| How? Start with the basic principles of survival. Human/animal life requires clean air, water, food (environment). It’s that simple. Ruin any or all of those elements, irrespective of the reasons EG JOBS/economy growth, and you risk the survival of the human race. We can live without jobs, as we have done for millions of yrs prior to industrialization, but we cannot live without that with is necessary for life. Synthetic chemical pollutants are causing increased rates of cancer, etc, a scientific fact irrespective of the increasing life expectancy of humans. Our biology are adept at defending against organic pollutants but not inorganic or synthetic ones. Insects can adapt to poisons quicker than animals/human due to their rapid life cycles, hence the need to continually develop new poisons to kill them. Humans take millions of yrs to achieve this which is no way near quick enough to adapt to the myriad of pollutants being pumped into the environment atm. There is a huge amount of research by universities at the damage these poisons do to children/babies. Fluoride, etc was proposed during the 40s as a method of disposing this industrial by-product without having to pay to do so into our water supplies. The evidence then was as flawed as using DDT etc was or smoking. The evidence nowadays shows all these chemicals are highly toxic. The pollution *** tail is mind boggling when u see the research. |
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By: tigereye670
6/07/2009
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People, whether or not global warming/cooling is caused by humans is not all that relevant, & while i suspect GW is influenced by humans the real focus should be on working with nature/physics/biology not against it. Now one really knows whether global warming is caused by humans. Not the pro camp & not the sceptical camp either.
Saying the last 5 or 10 yrs the earth is cooling is (in all due respect) simplistic & ignorant of how nature works. Long term trends are far more reliable and indicative than short term (5-10 yr) trends due to many other influences of weather. Sceptics/believers think that BELIEF or ATTITUDE is all that is necessary to be correct. OMG how dumb are they? Belief is irrelevant. Without reasoned scientific proof we must logically err on the side of caution not on shell be right mate, just because we say so, or the universe will bend to our will just because we want it too. Ultimately there are many other environmental dangers to human survival than GW/C. Sceptics think that if GW is somehow disproved (or tainted) then that’s all humans need to worry about. How ignorant is that proposition. When crossing a hwy u need to worry about more than the 1st car that passes by. |
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By: jaymarcel
6/07/2009
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| Even if global warming is a fake at least we may finally cut down the pollution poisoning the population. |
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By: alphamusicaus
6/07/2009
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| Caps lock. Use preview next time. |
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By: alphamusicaus
6/07/2009
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| Have you thought, however, about what the reaction will be when the inevitable happens and everyone realises global warming is a fake? Nothing that humans can do can alter the weather, it is just too big. I find it amusing that global cooling has been happening for the last 5 years too. Love the spin on trying to prove that that is an artifact of global warming :) |
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By: interscreener
6/07/2009
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Who are you to decide what an unnecessary and necessary thread is.
Specialization is for insects. I'd rather have one Leonardo Da Vinci than a thousand clones serving the compartmentalzed pyramid control system. How do you think the societal control structure works?
I never said I have a monopoly on the truth buddy! Would you rather a fascist boot stomping on yer head forever?
Jeez! Do you realize what you're posting?
If you don't like what I'm saying, simply ignore it.
How about Al Gore hey! What a smart cookie? Beware everyone, the carbon monster is gonna eat you alive!
We truly are heading towards monosyllabic grunts.
Go back to nibbling on the grass! Baaaahhhh! |
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By: vincenthavelundstephens
2/07/2009
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| Please you are going back to your silly nonsence, and in the process setting up a lot threads for little reason. wHY DONT YOU STICK TO SUBJECTS YOU KNOW IF YOU KNOW ANY THAT IS? oUR rda IS THE SAME FOR gODS SAKE.Vince |
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By: interscreener
2/07/2009
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You might be saying, who cares about America...well you will when it collapses...something is very wrong.
Senator Ron Paul has introduced a bill to audit the Federal Reserve (HR1207). For all of you who do not know, the Federal Reserve is a private banking cartel that has power over the U.S. money supply. They set interest rates and control monetary policy, thus giving them power over the economy of the U.S and to a large extent the world.
If you are a little confused about the Federal Reserve, I suggest you read The Creature From Jekyll Island....it will set you straight.
Back to the point...the Cap and trade legislation is close to being passed...which means a cap and trade policy for the states and most probably the rest of the world. This is dangerous because it will result in de-industrialization of the west, which means fewer jobs and more social control through micro-management of a low carbon emission policy.
Let's do something about it! Tell your family and friends about the plan to implement a global carbon tax. Tell them to say no to de-industrialization and a low carbon emissions policy and yes to real environmental reform.
Don't let Al Gore profit from people's ignorance! Say no to neo-feudalism and serfdom! |
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