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By: vincenthavelundstephens
30/06/2009
11:56 am

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To me it seems pointless to carry on this discussion, you are dealing in similar fantasies I also have heard and read of as a young man. The Masons, the significanse of the emblem on the Yankee Dollar note the Rothschilds etc; none of this is new. Hitler funded his Reich by the creation of fiat money and is why the old currency had to be canceelled and a new one issued when the war was over.
Stalin plundered the Kulaks or middle class and restructed the enire Russian system, and Mao as well as Chou en Lai plundered the treasury after the long march. Chou had a go before he was driven away to Taiwan into isolation and the creation of a new state Vespasion plundered the Jewish treasury to build the colliseum, and the Roman military was funded by tribute from conquered countries. Napoleon funded his armies on the road through plunder, LOuis 16th left a bankrupt treasury. etc etc; and so it goes on.
The conspiracy theories have abounded since the dawn of time and will continue while there are those who believe that such things are being planned.
So let it be if thats what some believe then they are entitled so to do, the one thing I know is correct is we all have the freedom of speach and thought. Thats what my uncles fought for and one is buried in Italy as a result. The others came home with horendous stories of what they actually saw, and the stolen trainloads of Money and Gold, but thats my truth because I heard it from those who saw, it doesnt mean I can pass that on as founded fact, because truth isnt transmitted like that?
I must retire from your blog because my views are so diametrically opposed to yours, and its not my aim to always be on the negative. The changing of the worlds monetary system isnt so easy, there has to be an underwriter of world, especially oil transactions, and I dont see a viable alternative thats real. Certainly not the Euro and Yuan only the T/Bonds provides an anchor that has the durable backing of a strong country, respectfully, Vi ...

By: interscreener
30/06/2009
12:45 am

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Of course America will have to relinquish its right to be issuer of the reserve currency...they are being sacrificed on the alter of the New World Order. There can be no one world government without the downfall of the U.S.
I appreciate the fact that you have empirical knowledge. I have to admit, I was not around when the Australian soldiers came back from WW2. What I do know is that Mao, Stalin and Hitler were all financed by the same international banking families that, even today, control the world's money supply. You see, the money changers have no loyalty to country or humanity. They play both sides of each conflict....in fact they create the conflict in order to offer the solution. They also profit along the way. Why not, when societies can be so easily manipulated? Hermann Georing said it best...'Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.' (end quote)
You say it's difficult to destroy the western world...I tend to agree, however we are yet to see the full extent of this economic crisis. As you have been around for longer than myself, you will understand that the U.S. (which is controlled by Israel and to some extent England) needs another war desperately. The RAND corporation, which is a major lobbyist, has it's sites set on either Pakistan or Iran. You will have noticed that the CIA and British tried their best to foment dissatisfaction with the election result. They were most likely involved in the murder of Neda. The war in the middle east will continue until Iran falls into the hands of the International Bankers. It is the last bastion of resistence to the New World Order aka a global fascist One World Government Dictatorship. Will they succeed? I hope not...but hope is not going to save the world. We need action.

By: vincenthavelundstephens
29/06/2009
10:38 pm

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forrestwicks
Truth is easy to deal with bulldust a little harder, i for one like truth, but how would you know?

By: vincenthavelundstephens
29/06/2009
10:34 pm

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As America once went so goes the world is old stuff and now wrong, there are to many changes in the financial horizon that proves America must soon relinquish its superiority in some stratas of our society. Democratic Capitalism is dying as did Communism and will also Socialism, this is simply because the debtor is beholden to the creditor, and America's foreign debt is out of control and worsening. But the infrastructure of the West is still far superior and America is still way superior in this area.
Because the West is struggling the developing countries namely Russia, China, India, and the Pacific rim countries are also in decline with massive lay offs in China, these are easily proved facts. Its somewhat similar to the French revolution, they cut off the heads of the Aristoes then had no buyers for their products hence they inherited Napoleon and millions died. Hitler was a similar phenomenon and for that 60 million died.
Thats why there must be balance and why there will eventually be a one world Govt; but not at the cost of 90% of the population. Older people like me remember our men coming home from war, as a boy I listened in awe, not to books written by academia, but by truth from those who were there.
In all wars of attrition the acedemics are killed first, because they can understand what is happening, but they are never creative its the next level up who lead the way and do away with them. Stalin destroyed the Kulaks because they were middle class and could fight back, but like Hitler he killed the academics( Jews), and so did Mao tse Tung.
This isnt new and it will worsen, but not in the manner you proclaim. I know the drug companies send their waste products to the third world, but its the Industrial and Developing world they have to destroy, and thats not so easy?
I am not interested in listening to a lot of Academics who are merely do nothing theoraticians, with little experience but teach to our young while most of us live in the real world. ...

By: nonsheeple
29/06/2009
8:17 pm

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Secret documents recently found half shredded in the home of a top CIA agent's home after he was discovered dead of undisclosed causes reveal that world governments, spooked by the prospect of radical climate change caused by over-population of the planet, have assembled a super-secret task force to engineer and distribute a super virulent strain of influenza (Swine Flu) designed to decrease human population and institute global Martial Law.

One of the non sheeple people

By: hehegirl@y7mail.com
29/06/2009
7:49 pm

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Looks like the mental health department needs more funding again. Have you been kidnapped by a UFO lately? Did they stick a probe in your head or your bottom?

By: forrestwicks
29/06/2009
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Greetings interscreeener you have done your home work the shepeople can not deal with the truth
like you said look out below cuz they will feel like they are in the septic tank looking up

keep up the good work

By: interscreener
29/06/2009
7:16 pm

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I agree with the fact that you can not take an authors opinion as fact. I am willing to conceed that there is a margin for error, however leopards do not change there spots.
We live in a time of documentary evidence. We now have machines capable of recording words and images. Of course, these too can be manipulated, however when the same events keep occuring time after time, and the same people are involved, then one can deduce there is more to the story than the 6 pm news.
I disagree with you about this being my theory. It is not.
There is a global shift in consciousness taking place. The subterfuge which has held the masses in a trace of weekend football, cheese burgers, reality T.V.and the trappings of a consumer based delusion, are about to go pop.
You seem like a curious kind of man, so I will once again reinterate the importance of digging beneath the veneer.
You are obviously interested in Finance, so we'll start there. I think you need to look at Bob Chapman of The International Forecaster, Gerald Celente of the Trends Research Institute and Max Keiser of Max Keiser.com.
If you are really into a dose of reality, I suggest you check out Alex Jones at infowars.com. I warn you though, it will shift your consciousness. Although these commentators are American, I think you will realize that as the U.S. goes, so goes the world.

By: vincenthavelundstephens
29/06/2009
6:11 pm

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Yes I agree my response was juvenile and I apolagize, it gets tedious being serious all of the time, and its not often one reads a message that is so opposed to my own thoughts. I am quite capable of understanding what you write, and as for thinking outside the box, i do that regularly.
I have found that those who have theories conditioned by intense reading often lack the reality of real life exoerience, and often see the subjects they pursue as truth rather than the thought of just human beings.
I also could espouse my truths and heartaches in life, my suspicions etc, but these are only my truths not easily passed on as reality. I think you sre stripping your self found truths, and would now pass same onto others as truth for all to fear, your wrong they are for you alone to fear. When others through some universal truth can begin to find your truth then it may become transportable.
To think outside the box is fine, if you actually have a box, but to create your own box then theorize outside of same is creating your own paradigm and frankly I dont buy it. I am not talking religion now we are discussing in tune with your own philosophy such as it may be, but never take a book subject no matter, who is the author and espouse it as true, it may be for you, but equally it may be quite outlandish to others.
I have made no mistake here buddy and I am no Shaman, in my practice I once worked with many doctors as clients and know just a little of the medical system in Australia and else where. That doesnt make me a Shaman it simply makes me aware of truth when I hear it, and so far I havent been able to hear you, but since I was so rude I will wait and hope. my rfespects, Vince

By: interscreener
29/06/2009
3:41 pm

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Your response is pretty juvenile, but that's OK. Most people find it difficult to search beyond the world that has been shaped and presented to them as reality. It's called social engineering. If you do some research into The Tavistock Institute, you might learn what that is, and why we are given I-Pods, Cell-phones, T.V. and beer to placate us.
You have been educated to dismiss and ridicule things that you are not capable of understanding. That's OK, because it's not really your fault. I also understand that when someone presents you with invaluable information that may help you break your social conditioning, you instead choose to regress to your childhood habit of poking fun at people who don't fit into the group.
I've read a little on shapeshifting. It seems like an interesting phenomenon, especially in relation to Shamans. But I guess, your curiosity is fairly limited, so a discussion of that area might be quite difficult.
I think you have made the mistake of lumping conspiracy theory in with facts that can be backed up by diligent research. Fair enough! You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

By: vincenthavelundstephens
29/06/2009
8:10 am

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All these bloke mentioned below were around when I was young, crikey they is tough orright. I think after they expire should be real soon I think its time for me to take over. Hope its soon, well before ise eighty anthoo, Vince

By: mippyme
28/06/2009
11:51 pm

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The shapeshifters are here, Obama was going to shapeshift and flick that fly into his mouth with his long tongue. Yes Sirrrreeee!

By: vincenthavelundstephens
28/06/2009
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Crikey mate I will have to go back for a second beer after ise bin to da toilet, cos I just pooed myself, Vince

By: interscreener
28/06/2009
9:45 pm

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Thank you for taking an interest in the message I posted.
These are not predictions, but fact. The U.S. government is controlled by The Council of Foreign Relations, The Trilateral Commission and ultimately The Bilderberg Group.
The Bilderberg group was established by Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands. Its purpose is the establishment of a one world governemnt. The Trilateral Commission was established by David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski, also with the sole purpose of bringing in a One World Government. Brzezinski wrote a very interesting book in the 1970'S called The Technotronic Era in which he describes the Fascistic, technological control grid into which the entire world will eventually be pushed. We are seeing the birth pangs of that now with the creation of the Patriot Act after the false flag operation on 9/11. We are moving rapidly towards a global police state. Brzezinski also advises the current white house puppet Barack Obama, as does Henry Kissinger.
If you know anything about the Australian Stockmarket, you will realize it follows the U.S. so listen up! If you think for one moment this financial crisis is over, you are deluded. Our masters have been playing this game for thousands of years. This global economic crisis has been staged, engineered and controlled by the dark forces behind the Federal Reserve, Goldman Sachs, the Bank of England and the Bank of International Settlements. The game is simple, yet too complicated for the sheople to understand.
Loosen credit and allow speculation to drive the housing and stock market to extreme levels, then turn off liquidity and cripple the system. When it collapses, buy up assets for pennies on the dollar....this time there was a little twist though...create financial products of mass destruction called derivatives, and blow at debt bubble 30 times the global GDP (1.5 quadrillion dolars). When that bubble pops, and it will because it has been designed to do just that, watch out below!
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