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By: mentawaisurf
Yesterday (5:27 pm)

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Robert Prechter Warns

Take a look!

http://www.elliottwave.com/cnbc-11-05-2009.aspx

By: sly.guy_nsw1
Yesterday (12:10 am)

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Robert Prechter Warns

Take a look!

Good night.

Hopefully, your dreams will be sweet.....

By: glh40
2 days ago (Friday, 5:20 pm)

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<<< creditors will demand cash - not stocks or commodities **** or even gold.****

CREDITORS DO..ALLOW GOLD TO PAY BACK DEBT.(for up to $200 million)....that includes BONDS

US-based clearing house CME Group Inc. is allowing physical gold to be used as collateral for margin requirements on all exchange products. This new CME policy is an act of desperation. The decision to “allow physical gold to be used as collateral for margin requirements on all exchange products”, against a backdrop of record prices and widespread abnormalities in gold markets, screams that something is wrong. The policy would never have been proposed unless JPMorgan really, really needed gold.

One wonders if this is merely a way for large banks to begin replenishing their depleted gold coffers (and continue shorting)

ps. Its clear Mr Roubini hasnt done his homework on GOLD

(market watch below & close gaps to see url)

http://www.marketwach.com/story/cme-to-allow-gold- as-collateral-for-all-exchange-products-2009-10-19

By: sly.guy_nsw1
2 days ago (Friday, 4:35 pm)

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Geez! I just watched the full ver. of the movie.. I did not know it was possible to do that with a melon... The officials in the background seemed to enjoy the show though... except for the fella whjo threw up at the extreme left of the picture in the last scene... Maybe he was the sensitive one in the negotiating team. Poor guy! He missed the "finale" and the "Bo Peep" performer.

By: sly.guy_nsw1
2 days ago (Friday, 4:33 pm)

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Hey Wendy baby! I checked Google... The ADDRESS you provided appears to be the same as the one shown for the Shanghai, (Pudong) Central Peoples Republican Army, (PLA) Barracks. Whats your rank then sweety? You just back from smoothing out creases in the recent Guinea negotiations.. That wasn't you in the UTube movie which was recently posted online ... was it? Long black hair.. long legs.. slim.. great smile and.. Ummmm. Well. Just see the movie :)

By: perceptions_now
2 days ago (Friday, 4:28 pm)

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What the? Wendy are you in the right place? Are you lost?
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NOT LOST!

I HAVE SEEN WNEDY'S POST POP UP ELSEWHERE, I WOULD RECOMMEND AGAINST GOING ONTO WENDY'S WEBSITE!

PS - The Yahoo moderator has already taken action to delete the other post and I trust this one will get the same result.

By: sly.guy_nsw1
2 days ago (Friday, 4:25 pm)

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Oh Kraps!! I spilled some beer on the keyboard!!!

By: sly.guy_nsw1
2 days ago (Friday, 4:24 pm)

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By: hdmausguy
2 days ago (Friday, 3:42 pm)

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I'm debt free so somebody else has my $1.60?

By: mentawaisurf
2 days ago (Friday, 1:21 pm)

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Jay, Australia's consumer debt exceeds that of the US (now at $1.60 per $1 of income).

By: jaymarcel
2 days ago (Friday, 12:51 pm)

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What the? Wendy are you in the right place? Are you lost?

By: jaymarcel
2 days ago (Friday, 12:50 pm)

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hd, I do think gold is close to peaking & it is all speculation which will come to an end over the next 12 months. What are your thoughts on the preference of gold over Platinum or Rhodium?
To me I feel safer with something we all want & need, "property" I'm not willing to claim property will never fall but long term I feel in Australia it is a safer bet & will always recover to a higher value.
Just got to make sure not to get into a forced sale position.
World debt is not in an ideal position but I believe is in a manageable position, we just need to educate people on what is good debt & what is bad debt, here in Australia we have a fair way to go to hit our peak borrowing capacity, the UK & US have been there for a long time, which is why they have suffered now.
I'm too new to the 'J' curve but will get back to you.

By: wendywen85
2 days ago (Friday, 12:44 pm)

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By: mentawaisurf
2 days ago (Friday, 12:43 pm)

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Hugh, there's likely to be support for gold as money flees equities looking for a safe place to hide. But as Roubini says, the deleveraging of positions would see a dollar reversal which could smash this rally, including the gold rally.

At the end of the day, debtors will sell ALL their assets to pay back debt because creditors will demand cash - not stocks or commodities or even gold.

By: hdmausguy
2 days ago (Friday, 12:21 pm)

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Menta - What do you think will happen to gold & P M's + producing gold mines in the next few years? What do you think of the popular view on gold that "when" the market tanks there'll be a stampede into safe assets,including gold? There's been suggestions that $5koz will be reached in 2012?

By: jaymarcel
2 days ago (Friday, 12:17 pm)

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Hi Ralph, but we do have to talk about majority not minority. Majority live in the city, the suburbs & growth areas.

By: mentawaisurf
2 days ago (Friday, 11:53 am)

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It's not Armageddon or the end of the world. But we are in an unfolding super-cycle bear market that should not bottom until at least 2012. We survived the 1930s and we'll survive this era too. It won't be pretty but it will be necessary so that we may again progress in a sustainable manner moving forward without a return to the debt fueled consumerism and rampant speculation that caused the crisis.

Meanwhile, contrary to what our mainstream economists and financial media are proclaiming, the worst is not over. In fact it appears increasingly likely that the major declines of the bear market lie dead ahead. Caution is the prudent strategy as it's now all about return of investment - not return on investment.

"Since asset prices are being inflated by a weak dollar right now, a dollar reversal could smash this rally, says Nouriel Roubini. The perfectly correlated bubble across all global asset classes gets bigger by the day."
"In the short run, what's happening is that there is a wall of liquidity, not just in the United States but around the world, that is chasing assets. It is equities, commodities, it's credit, it is gold, it is emerging market asset classes".
"We have the mother-of-all carry trades. Everybody is borrowing, shorting the dollar, and investing in assets all over the world."
"Once the dollar reverses, you need to close your shorts, dump assets..."

This unwinding will hit hard and fast and lead to a surge in the USD and a collapse in asset prices around the world, including Australia. Given the USD seems to be in a major bottoming process, while stocks, commodities, real estate and other currencies appear to be topping, the key market trend reversal is looming.

By: hdmausguy
2 days ago (Friday, 11:43 am)

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jay - Did you notice the word "decoupling" in my post on gold. This will take quite some time to emerge. In recent days we've had the USD index rising,the DOW rising & falling and gold rising or remaining steady. Over time gold will rise to it's true market value once the manipulators have their influence controlled. What's your view on world debt? The future effects on Australia & G20 in the next 5 years? A look on the net at the "j" curve debt chart graphs will give you a quick & easy overview. Also do I read you correctly that your view is that gold has peaked & it will drop in price?

By: ralph.montegue
2 days ago (Friday, 11:33 am)

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... And those who on a daily basis are faced with the reality of our economic situation many are suffering.

By: ralph.montegue
2 days ago (Friday, 11:31 am)

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EXCELLENT POST By: akdoc1 Today (8:29 am)!!

Frankly, I also would feel much happier should certain people be inclined to look more closely at what is happening to the country as a whole rather than simply focus only on the few areas where some positive indication of the economy at least holding its own might be found.

Let us not forget that "where wealthy are, wealthy is".

Many within our society do not reside in areas heavily populated by the wealthy.

And who on a daily basis are faced with the reality of our economic situation many are suffering.

By: jaymarcel
2 days ago (Friday, 11:29 am)

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I agree with you an "I'm right your wrong" arguement is always a little pointless & as a rule regulars on here put up a good discussion for their point of view including menta, I can not answer for menta so do not know his reasoning for holding back on answers sometimes, perhaps it is just that being wrong on a call entered on this forum can not be forgotten. We can not all always be right & sometime make a statement on the info available or an opinion at that moment in time & some on here do not accept that views & opinions can change from an individual.

By: jaymarcel
2 days ago (Friday, 11:18 am)

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Hi troubador, my statement was in noway intended at one individual

By: jaymarcel
2 days ago (Friday, 11:15 am)

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Hi hd, very good but the question is can gold maintain this lead over property, also which do you think had the biggest risk at the time of your dates given?
Are you a believer that gold basically does the opposite to the US dollar & if that is the case it sounds like a very risky investment now, still even riskier than houses in my point of view.

By: troubador35
2 days ago (Friday, 11:13 am)

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correction to my last post. I of course meant "germane". It appears I have the lovely Germaine Greer on my mind.

By: troubador35
2 days ago (Friday, 11:11 am)

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Oh, did I forget to mention that I thought yesterdays posts by warren and pwaldons wer germain to the subject? How neglectful of me.

I felt they were particularly germain because they were finally able to get a resolution to a question. The question was, "If we are going into deflationary times, where is the safest place for our cash". Mentawaysurf finally answered the question. Is that fair enough?
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