By: lasty49 15/11/2009 5:47 pm Yahoo! Profile: lasty49 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Menta
The only proof I have is in their bank account and why the US are blaming them for their demise.
But go on believe the Madoffs |
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By: mentawaisurf 15/11/2009 4:26 pm Yahoo! Profile: mentawaisurf Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Lasty, you seem to doubt independent reports on China while whole-heartedly believing the convenient and rubbery figures provided by a corrupt and oppressive Chinese communist party.
But you're certainly not alone. It seems our government, mainstream economists and most our financial media likewise have similar blind faith in the CCP. Unfortunatley that is merely the epitome of wishing thinking: I want it to be true, therefore, it is true. |
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By: akdoc1 14/11/2009 1:24 pm Yahoo! Profile: akdoc1 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| gnyakudjga; conspiracy theoriests give credit to containment bringing down the Russians and expansionism being used to break up China. However in the end it is always the enemy within that causes the most problems, if the US had an agenda they sure shot themselves in the foot to carry it out. |
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By: dragononthegumtree 14/11/2009 12:15 pm Yahoo! Profile: dragononthegumtree Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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gnyakudjga,
Their language is also a disadvandage.
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This argument is stupid. The Ja-pan-ese do not speak English, so what, they are one of the most developed economy, while the Indian speak English as their official language, but their country is like a sh!t hole. Enough said. |
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By: gnyakudjga 14/11/2009 10:38 am Yahoo! Profile: gnyakudjga Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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akdoc1
Hello. I agree with you that China"s bubble will burst in a few years time. America which is facing economic challenges at the moment will again emerge even stronger than before. At the moment many American companies are operating from China taking advandage of low cost production{cheap labour etc). China does not have any world quality or brand product like a car, radio or whatever invention. What they are good at is sort of copying already popular products. They have got a lot of money to splash due to their mass production and the availability of ready markets. Their language is also a disadvandage.I believe there is a conspiracy by the Americans. They have got an agenda which shall show up later. |
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By: lasty49 13/11/2009 6:35 pm Yahoo! Profile: lasty49 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Menta
You keep doubting the Chinese numbers and believe in the US commentators.
I don't believe one off numbers I focus on trends.
Of course you can listen to the great Wall St spruikers but be warned there are more Madoff's out there.
Remember Americans are still in denial about their economic powers demise.
Those who can sense change have deployed their operations to China. |
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By: communistevil 13/11/2009 4:12 pm Yahoo! Profile: communistevil Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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As are all such states rulled by corrupt and evil governments, CHINA IS DOOMED.
Sadly, prior to the inevitable collapse and resultant revolutionary distress the actions of that same government shall do much harm to the world economy.
Now is the time to acknowledge the dangers associated with our entertaining the idea of doing business witht he evil and corrupt government fo the P. R. of China.
Recent as yet unconfirmed reports indicate that the P. R of China has been investing heavily in the property market so as to help inflate the property bubble which we all se growing at an ever increasingly alarming rate.
With fists full of USD, this cash rich COMMUNIST giant is now manipulating the property market here with only one clear intention in mind.
To help create a bubble and then burst it so as to destroy our economy and way of life.
"Ridiculous! Makes no sense!! C'mon. Why would they even think of doing such a thing?" I hear some ask.
The reason is all too clear to those who will STOP & THINK!
The evil & corrupt government of that communist state will create an economic disaster here of such proportions so as to benefit from it!
Yes!Benefit!
For when the disaster which we all know will soon occur doesindeed come to pass, ONLY they shall be cash rich and ready to pick up the pieces at bargain basement prices. And ONLY they shall be in the WINNERS corner.
They will have control. And we shall be at their mercy!
SAY NO TO DOING BUSINESS with the P. R. of China. STOP them from investing in our industries and prevent them from buying more property than they already own.
Alarm! Alarm!! Fight to keep our independence!!
Say YES to Freedom & NO to the P. R. of CHINA!! |
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By: akdoc1 13/11/2009 3:58 pm Yahoo! Profile: akdoc1 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Menta, jumping on these stories that have been so obvious for so long proves nothing. Yes, the Chinese economy is heading for a crash but it is not going to happen this year. The danger will not occur until the end of their 2 year plan which depends on global recovery happening before this time next year creating a soft landing for them.
The only immediate danger to China comes from their present need to dump overproduction onto the global market before they become buried in it. This is already causing problems for them as more countries resort to protectionism and reject cheap Chinese goods completely.
China however will continue until late next year with their stimulus program even if it means recycling what they have already made so don't expect China's economy to collapse before then. |
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By: mentawaisurf 13/11/2009 1:13 pm Yahoo! Profile: mentawaisurf Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Lasty, decoupling was a myth. So is the 'stronger for longer with China' story we constantly hear in Australia.
China's 8.9% Growth? No Way
http://www.forbes.com/2009/10/22/china-growth-gdp- economy-opinions-columnists-gordon-g-chang.html |
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By: lasty49 13/11/2009 12:15 pm Yahoo! Profile: lasty49 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Menta
Yes we are aware that the US,UK and parts of Europe are in strife.
Now you have made your mind up about what will occur.
Remember those US commentators will fly the USA all the way.
Me well I'm not so sure how it will pan out.
I don't think China will sit back and let 1 trillion dollars of US treasuries disappear whilst their country goes down the gurgler do u ? |
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By: lasty49 13/11/2009 12:15 pm Yahoo! Profile: lasty49 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Menta
Yes we are aware that the US,UK and parts of Europe are in strife.
Now you have made your mind up about what will occur.
Remember those US commentators will fly the USA all the way.
Me well I'm not so sure how it will pan out.
I don't think China will sit back and let 1 trillion dollars of US treasuries disappear whilst their country goes down the gurgler do u ? |
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By: mentawaisurf 13/11/2009 11:34 am Yahoo! Profile: mentawaisurf Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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China Is Headed For A Crash
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29330.ht ml
As the Addicted to Money episode last night showed, globalisation has inextricably linked and inter-twined economies all around the world. What effects the US and Europe effects China which in turn effects Australia etc. The winds of change are blowing, but Australia's economy has already set sail for China. |
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By: wealthforusall 11/10/2009 10:07 am Yahoo! Profile: wealthforusall Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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PROPHECY OF EDGAR CAYCE;
Two of Cayce's major predictions concerned the futures of China and the Soviet Union, the world's great Communist giants. In 1944, he prophesied that China would one day be "the cradle of Christianity as applied in the lives of men."
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By: qitulong 11/10/2009 9:31 am Yahoo! Profile: qitulong Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Mr. Guy is correct. There is big problem for everyone if we get too dependent upon relying on P.R. of China for our country financial freedom and success. It is a very bad thing to rely upon such kind of corrupt and selfish state. They country of my birt suffered mnay, many years because we accepted "hand of friendship" from that same communist state. "Hand of friendship" was not what it seemed and soon that state became our master and we became its slave. I pray that this does not happen here in our country. It would be a verty bad thing. Maybe it is true that while they try to gain control and manipultae us we should not trade with them. They need to understand that we can trade with them only on fair basis. |
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By: packofnutters 10/10/2009 5:16 pm Yahoo! Profile: packofnutters Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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I see the nutters from the negative blog are visiting with their bag of old tricks of complaining and moaning about China .
Maybe they should all move to China.!I think they'd have a lot in common!
Their gruesome psyche frequently displaying paroxysm is the measure by which readers ascertain their lack of mental stability.
Their joint continual denial to accept that Australia has performed very well and is continuing to do so,is evidence and very similar to religious fervour indulged in by some extremists currently masqerading in our society,hell bent on causing trial and tribulations for decent,moral and hardworking citizens.
Back to the good news:
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AAP - Friday October 9, 2009, 10:04 am
Henry predicts strong economic forecasts
The Australian economy has performed better than expected and the next set of government forecasts will reflect that view, Treasury Secretary Ken Henry says."It is no secret that the next...
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Australasian Investment Review - Friday October 9, 2009, 8:27 am
Labour Market Improves, Economy Into Recovery Mode
There is no way Reserve Bank Governor Glenn Stevens and the rest of the central bank's board would have expected to have this week's rate rise vindicated so quickly and so emphatically. But...
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Reuters Finance News, Australia - Friday October 9, 2009, 8:23 am
Australia shares seen up on economy optimism
SYDNEY, Oct 9 (Reuters) - Australian stocks may get a boost on Friday after a strong start to the U.S. company earnings season boosted sentiment over a recovery, with resources stocks set to gain on...
AND THE LIST GOES ON! |
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By: communistevil 10/10/2009 8:44 am Yahoo! Profile: communistevil Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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BEWARE. Hark ye now to words of TRUTH.
The P.R. of China seeks to gain control of our natural resources so as to be able to influence our political and social freedom.
Unable to overcome democracy by political influence, the corrupt and evil government of the P.R. of China now actively seeks to purchase those companies around the world who control the production / supply of natural resources.
By doing so, they hope to control us all.
Our greatest peril is not ECONOMIC DISASTER but the devious and skillful manipulatio of world markets and therefore the worlds economy by that most evil and corrupt of states, the P. R. of CHINA.
DO NOT ONE SIDED BUSINESS with the P. R. of CHINA. For they wish to control us and make us their slaves forever.
And HAVE NO DOUBT, there are those amongst us who are even now trying to convince us that trading with the corrupt and evil state of the P.R. of China is in our best interst. They seek to manipulate us, to make us believe that the P.R. of China is our only option with regards to ensuring our future financial well being as a nation...
LIES!! Harken not to there blatant exagerated and pro P.R.of China lies..
These same liers are the GREEDY ones who care nothing for DEMOCRACY and instead seek only to "profit from ANY deal at any cost" whilst others suffer as a result. These are the same creepy types who got us all into this economic disaster in the first place and who`s selfish and underhanded actions have already resulted in so much hardship and financial damage for so many.
The choice is simple, be enslaved or SAY NO TO ONE SIDED TRADE WITH THE P.R. OF CHINA! |
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By: packofnutters 10/10/2009 12:59 am Yahoo! Profile: packofnutters Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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AND the good news keeps coming...
Jobless rate will have others green with envy
The latest employment data is not only a stunning result, but it suggests the Australian economy has executed another critical turning point. And it is a surprise double act that will have other...
ABC Business News - Thursday October 8, 2009, 4:20 pm
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By: packofnutters 9/10/2009 4:22 pm Yahoo! Profile: packofnutters Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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ALL GOOD BELOW;
Australia leaves Europe, UK, US in its wake
The remarkable about-face of Australia's economy is provoking envy from other developed nations still mired in recession. Yesterday, economists were caught off guard when the jobless rate...
ABC Business News - Friday October 9, 2009, 3:08 pm
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By: guy.longshank1 9/10/2009 4:05 pm Yahoo! Profile: guy.longshank1 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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packofnutters
I know you post offensive comment merely to obtain recognition you lonely freek.
So here is some for you -
Do put a sock in it and crawl back to your slimey hole HECKLER! Nobody but you posts such outlandishly offensive and poor mannered comment on these BLOG's using multiple fake ID's... Be gone foul TROLL!! |
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By: packofnutters 9/10/2009 2:07 pm Yahoo! Profile: packofnutters Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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I see the nutters on the negative blog are back to their old tricks of complaining and moaning to YAHOO about any poster who disagrees with them .
Maybe they should all move to China.!I think they'd have a lot in common!
Their gruesome psyche frequently displaying paroxysm is the measure by which readers ascertain their lack of mental stability.
Their joint continual denial to accept that Australia has performed very well and is continuing to do so,is evidence and very similar to religious fervour indulged in by some extremists currently masqerading in our society,hell bent on causing trial and tribulations for decent,moral and hardworking citizens.
Back to the good news:
1/
AAP - Friday October 9, 2009, 10:04 am
Henry predicts strong economic forecasts
The Australian economy has performed better than expected and the next set of government forecasts will reflect that view, Treasury Secretary Ken Henry says."It is no secret that the next...
2/
Australasian Investment Review - Friday October 9, 2009, 8:27 am
Labour Market Improves, Economy Into Recovery Mode
There is no way Reserve Bank Governor Glenn Stevens and the rest of the central bank's board would have expected to have this week's rate rise vindicated so quickly and so emphatically. But...
3/
Reuters Finance News, Australia - Friday October 9, 2009, 8:23 am
Australia shares seen up on economy optimism
SYDNEY, Oct 9 (Reuters) - Australian stocks may get a boost on Friday after a strong start to the U.S. company earnings season boosted sentiment over a recovery, with resources stocks set to gain on...
AND THE LIST GOES ON!
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By: lasty49 23/09/2009 10:28 am Yahoo! Profile: lasty49 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Menta,
Premier Wen stated ""To boost domestic demand is a long-term strategic policy for China's economic growth."
The US consumer was a leg up to get to where they want to be and not a long term business model.
Its very hard to accept by some people that the US was played and beaten without a shotfired. |
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By: mentawaisurf 21/09/2009 3:20 pm Yahoo! Profile: mentawaisurf Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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China boomed as the US consumed. But those days are over. 70% of the US economy is consumer driven, and consumer spending is dying (despite all efforts from the US government & central bank) as American's are finally forced to pay down debt and save.
As Professor Niall Ferguson's insighful TV series, The Ascent of Money (specifically the final episode called 'Chimerica'), showed us that the systemic inter-dependence of the US/China relationship has grown to be so crucial to the global economy. Basically, if the US falls it will take China down with it (and in doing so the global economy - especially Australia which has become too over-reliant and dependent upon China's continued economic growth).
Niall Ferguson on Chimerica from The Ascent of Money;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emRbMur7eH0
Power is relative;
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2009/09/chime rica-niall-fergunson-on-the-rise-of-the-chinaameri ca-century.html |
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