By: chrisatbravo
2/06/2009
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| all i have to say is the government gave a hoot about its pensioners we would all get $750 a fortnite Minimum hell if i got work doin security i would hire pensioners to work for me, under one condition, they get paid by how much they work, they do a job that earns them $1000 then they get all of it as long as its in thebooks come tax tie i would be happy but i gotta get started first |
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By: chrisatbravo
2/06/2009
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| look i was getting about $485 per fortnight when i lived with my foster parents but then when i found out they were taking $450 per fortnight for rent i tried to join the Army Reserves as i was so desperate to get money they found out and threw me out i had to walk 85KM to my freinds house to let him know i wasnt going to be going to 'school' the next day, but his mum let me stay there for 5 days then i ran into another freind who rented me a room that was attached to the garage, it wasnt much but i was desperate and i got alongvery well with my freind and his wife and kids then when i met my girlfreind on the internet i moved into a caravan and been hee ever since, but i am looking for work but as soon as you say that you are on a DSP the employers dont want you they tell me theyre not hiring or they just dont contact you, i have place about 1450 resumes by post/hand delivered/ Emailed ut i still havent got any work, i have just been approved for me to do a security course hopefully i get work now, im at the ppoint that i would take work ANYWHERE including iraq, i cant even propose to my girlfreind coz i got no money to get us the basics. |
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By: supernatural5094
26/05/2009
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You are TOTALLY correct...and I'm in the same situation...I go without the physiotherapy and many medical expenses as it is...I stretch myself beyond my limits, to try to make ends meet. When the car 'gives up the ghost' I won't be able to replace it and my job's dependant on that. I am disillusioned with this decision from a Lobor Government who obviously don't have financial or health issues.
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By: supernatural5094
26/05/2009
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| The $500 bonus doe not apply to disability support pensioners...only will apply to old age pension...in order to keep them workung!!! |
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By: supernatural5094
26/05/2009
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Your calculations are inaccurate...WILL BE WOSE OFF!!!
Look at your method of calculation carefully. |
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By: usiapl@y7mail.com
14/05/2009
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From my understanding the government will increase its income test from 40% to 50% above the threashold, this is for single pensioners, the current rate for couple pensioners is 20% and I assume it will increase to 50%.
In a press release the max amount of private income for singles is $38693 and couples $59228, The figures don't add up. |
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By: tamlynaus
14/05/2009
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| I totally agree with your comments. I'm a mature aged person who has worked all my life....paid my taxes...there was *NO* such thing as paid maternity leave. I raised two children on my own, while working full time. I certainly didn't ask to be placed in the position I am now, but unfortunately, due to the economic situation...I am unemployed. I have been to several interviews....sat on the other side of the desk....being interviewed by a person either the same age as my children or younger, and walked out the door, fully aware I'll not be successful. It's an awful feeling to know, sadly, due to ones age (age descrimination being illegal) to know darn well...you didn't get the job....because of your age. Those of us who are surviving on a pension (no matter what category) are still faced each and every day with the general cost of living. I'm not complaining...I'm simply stating the truth....*It's difficult making what we receive stretch in SOOOOO many directions. I'm curious as to WHY the RUDD Government doesn't give the unemployed an increase.... |
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By: feralfeatures55
13/05/2009
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| the government allocate $32 extra toward pensioners in september well the thing they dont realise is now to see specialist we have to pay up to sometimes $200.00 and we are lucky to get back about $80.00 so we are out of pocket and also they allocate $5.80 pharmacuetical allowance a fortnight in pensions one script is $5.30 and some are not covered by the free list for medications so how far is another $32.00 going to give the pensioners dignity to live the pharmacuetical allowance has not altered in 3 years so we still live below the line of dignity because as soon as we get that increase out rent goes if you are public housing and still do not get the benifit of it but they have good pensions!!!! |
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By: jarrydbj
13/05/2009
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| From what i understand the $500 employment bonus is only available to aged pensioners and not disability pensioners. Maybe they should put this across the board or at least increase the $138 to a decent level before they take $$ off us. The government has been spruiking for years about Penioners getting some work and now that we have they end up taking money off us. THIS NEEDS TO BE INCREASED TO A REASONABLE LEVEL. |
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By: vjn64
13/05/2009
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If your a single pensioner on $500 employment income your pension is only reduced by ((500x50%)-138)x50% = $56; currently it is reduced by (500-138)x40% = $144.80; this means an extra $88.80 on top of the increased $65.00 per fortnight, total of $153.80 extra. I don't think you need to worry too much about $20.28 under the Transitional Rules.
www.budget.gov.au/2009-10 /content/glossy/pension/h tml/pensions_overview_03. htm |
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By: idalee44
13/05/2009
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| Someone should report them to centrelink then, it's just not fair to the taxpayers |
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13/05/2009
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By: rabginc
13/05/2009
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| Tom, unfortunately this is already happening. I have heard of two couples who are living in the same house but stated to Centrelink (and obviously they beleive it) that they were separated and not only do they receive the single pension each but they got the higher stimulus package each as well. What is the govt doing here by giving such a huge difference to single pensioners, they are encouraging more of the same. |
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By: jarrydbj
13/05/2009
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| I have just spoken to Centrelink and what they didnt say in the Budget is that people who will be worse off under the pension increase in the 2009 Budget will stay on Transitional rules which means we wont be worse off and they will keep things the same and they also said single pensioners ( single or married) will get a minimum of $10.14 increase per week. This has put my mind at rest. I would of been happy to not lose any $4 but this was i will be $20.28 ahead. |
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By: vjn64
13/05/2009
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| The $500 is not a new threashold ($240 for couples). It is a work bonus. Meaning only half of your first $500 from employment income is treated as income. So you get to scrub off up to $250 before applying the extra 10% reduction. Effectively (for employment income) the pension is reduced by 25% instead of 40%, or at least for the first $500 per fortnight. At first impressions (from listening to the media) I though I would be taking a paycut of $40. But there is a provision that allows for a $10.14 (week) increase if the new income rules (50% up from 40%) disadvantage pre-existing pensioners. I'm not sure if the $500 Work Bonus is for each person in a couple. If it is then I don't know what provisions are in place to prevent income spliting. |
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By: rabginc
13/05/2009
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| totally agree - I also raised two children with no paid maternity leave and the endowment for the first child was $2 per month from memory. Why do this generation need paid maternity leave - we are raising a "we want" society and the govt are pandering to them. Will they still get a baby bonus and paid maternity leave!!!! |
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By: jarrydbj
13/05/2009
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| I get a part disability pension. I work 33 hours per fortnight and all disability pensioners have been encouraged to get out and work as much as we can which is what I am doing. I have worked out with this new pension increase and the rate we lose for our pay (was 40 cents in the dollar, now going up to 50 cents in the dollar) I end up losing $30 per fortnight. Don't get me wrong people who rely wholly on the pension need an increase but when the Government keep spruiking for pensioners to get out work as much as they can why increase the rate to 50 cents in the dollar. They are giving to pensioners on one hand and taking from other pensioners. This happens all the time. The last time they increased the rental assistance rate they also increased the threshold and some, including me ended up with less rent assistance. They were saying on the news yesterday that all pensioners would get an increase well I wont get any extra. As per usual some pensioners miss out. They keep saying they need to do this to save some money but why take it from pensioners, even people on part pensions are doing it tough as well. |
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By: robertehug
13/05/2009
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Unemployed get nothing again with it risen what than.
You get use to it and the training what a laugh.
I been living on itand you get use to it.
If there are no jobs and you have the experience that why the training ? Another rip and wste of mney in same cases
This was all cause by greed and we are now paying fo it.
Should get on the disable on the pension would be better off.
Unemploment will go down by doing so. |
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By: kevyn_lee
13/05/2009
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| we have raised 7 children, i started my working life at 13 and my wife at 15, we have one son a captain in the aus army 2nd son a foreman at a meatwork oldest daughter a office manager for a co in qld i could go on but i wont point is we didnt get paid maternity leave our children where mostly born at night or early hours of the morning and off to work i went and my wife cared for the kids until such time as she wanted to go back to work which she did and still does , my point is it wasnt easy but we did it without paid maternity what makes people different now and if i remember correctly my wife got 2.76 for a child and child endowment trying raisng a child on that |
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By: johnnoonan@y7mail.com
13/05/2009
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| i agree totaly single pensioner gets $64 per f/n Married get $20 per f/n i would like to see the polies and the buerocrats live on what we get i also agree about the baby bonus, we never got it yet we raised 2 children my nana raised 15 children i was allowed 2 days of when they were born and i worked for myer if i had any longer i was threatened with the sack the govt is using the wrong set of scales |
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By: kevyn_lee
13/05/2009
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people who were fortunate enough to get the stimulus packages & i was one who put it away realised that first comes the carrot then comes the stick.The recession is here and has been for quite a while and is far from over.
2ndly pensioners deserve all the help they can get,whether old age or dsp , however this nonsense of two can live cheeper than one is ridicoulous, yes two slightly less incomes make paying the rates and elec somewhat easier , but in the over all daily life it costs the same for both to eat. i know this will upset the apple cart,Paid maternity leave why on earth should government or more to the point people pay because you decide to have a child, people get enough help baby bonus fas etc,i know i will be howled down about it, if people are in either a financial bind and need two incomes then you cant afford a child or alternativly if you love your job and dont want to give it up dont have a child. Lastly consecutive governments have known about running out of workers for years , dont punish people who have worked their lives and have earnt the right to retire if they want,train up our own young or alternativly pay the older workers with all the skills to teach the young, 20 or 26 week schemes dont get people off unemployment they just put them under a different heading. thanks all for letting me take so much space |
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By: srl68@rocketmail.com
13/05/2009
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| disability pensioner - married. Extra $20.28 per fortnight. Now 50 cents in the dollar taken for private income (is this married or single rate?) but the threshold goes upto $500 per fortnight, up from $240. Carrer's get extra a year $600 on carrer payment and $600 per person on carrer allowance. Did I miss anything and get it right? |
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By: potterroma
13/05/2009
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| How wonderful that the single age pensioner has been recognised. We have the same rates, Elec. Gas Bills, Water Rates & have tried to manage not very well I assure you. To receive a couple income to pay all these overheads is not easy, but you can manage I am told, from most of my aged pensioners couple friends. The single age pensioner does Not manage & needed help desperately. Thank You Mr Rudd. Now we can eat better food. |
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By: prizetaker
13/05/2009
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frankandbrenda1
They will introduce a $500 salary offset per fortnight, so you should be better off personally, even with the 50% deduction. |
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By: prizetaker
13/05/2009
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Your correct - that is the reason...
Single Pensioners are the disadvantaged against a couple pension in regards to paying for rent bills etc hence one of the reasons for the different payment structures for singles and couples pensioners. |
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