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By: hdmausguy
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| n.v.good q. on p.rad. His posts were ok there but I think maybe some other threads he's rubbed someone up the wrong way? Accordingly the MOD haz h.i.t the dump all button or similar? I've had to modify the grammar after MOD, 2 words haz & hit because it makes a naughty word by golly. Paranoid Yahoo people. |
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By: hdmausguy
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| pete re: your posts, that's the message my previous post was pointing out. Total selfishness would lead to total extinction. |
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By: hdmausguy
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| LETS WIND THE C.L.O.C.K.*** BACK 100 YEARS AND EVERYONE (ADULTS) IN THE WORLD AT THAT TIME HAD A VOTE. THAT VOTE WAS TO DECIDE IF ANY MORE CHILDREN WOULD BE BORN ANYWHERE. THE MAJORITY VOTED FOR ZERO CHILDREN. SO IT WAS FROM THAT TIME ONWARDS NO MORE CHILDREN CAME INTO THE WORLD. SADLY JUST TODAY THE LAST REMAINING HUMAN BEING PASSED AWAY. THAT PERSON WAS BURIED BY ROBOTS. ON THE HEADSTONE BELOW THE NAME WAS THE INSCRIPTION HERE LIES THE LAST D.I.N.K.& HUMAN BEING TO LIVE ON EARTH. R.I.P. |
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By: mullinskim41
4/08/2009
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After Cain had murdered his brother Abel, God asked him where his brother was. Cain answered, âI know not; am I my brother's keeper?â
Cain's words have come to symbolize people's unwillingness to accept responsibility for the welfare of others. I am not just referring to the down and out.
Billions of your taxes go to corporate welfare, military defense, exploration of outer space,incurable deseases...I could name hundreds of programs that do not directly benefit you and anyone else who have no childner or diseases, perhaps are anti-war, could care less about outer space and absolutely do not believe that strong corporation make for strong economies. It all comes down to we are all members of the human race and what benefits one will pay forward to benefit the rest. Stop your whining and get involved with giving and caring about someone other then yourself. People who are needed and have a purpose don't have enough time to complain about how much they give and how little they receive. |
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By: stephn@ymail.com
14/05/2009
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| I agree with the objections of DINKS footing the bill, yet again. I have no problem with taxes going towards looking after those with disabilities, into our public hospitals, defence forces, schools etc but I do object to paying for the general expenses incurred by those who opt to have kids. Don't for a minute be fooled into thinking there will be a pension for we Gen x's or that the Gen Y's and beyond will take care of us when we are old. It's never going to happen. To add insult to injury I find it particularly ironic that my taxes are not only go towards paying for other peoples day to day family expenses when I don't have a family but I am also paying an extra $60 increase a month for private health cover so I'm not a burden on the public health system along with paying considerably more for the specialist services that I need to treat the reason that I can't have kids. Quite frankly, aside from those with disabilities/illnesses or pensioners I do think taxes should be disbursed on a "if you use it, you pay for it" basis. My friends have all recieved their baby bonuses/family payments and yet I'm still driving on a fatality waiting to happen of a road everyday so I can go to work to make more money to hand over. Oh, and to the person (people) who don't belive in war, what would you do if Australia was invaided? Tell the soldiers to go away? That you can defend yourself? |
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By: stephn@ymail.com
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"The choice of having no kids is a legitimate choice but a selfish and self centered one. So you pay for this right."
I find it particularly narrow minded that people with children often refer to we childless couples as this being our "choice". I can not have children naturally or through IVF and the adoption process is so long that my husband and I would be deemed "too old" IF we were to be a suitable candidate. Tell me, where is the "choice" in that? |
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By: beachgolfer62
15/05/2008
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Dear Tropicagatha, I applaud your lifeplan but I reiterate it is not people like yourself that are in the majority having babies.
The statistics are overwhelming in showing that $B's in taxes are going to those that not only don't contribute to to the wealth and stability of this country but in fact are maliciously doing the opposite.These parasites are growing at a faster rate than any other demographic.
They love their lifestyle and their offspring will perpetuate the problem for evermore.
Your children will pay taxes to support these recalcitrants whilst the genuine needy will continue to suffer. |
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By: tropicagatha
14/05/2008
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Not all families received thousands of dollars in baby bonus,I didn't! As my youngest is 7 & the baby bonus came in only about 6 years ago .
Due to declining fertility rates something had to be done to create a workforce for the future or who would pay for the next lot of taxes? Remember these kids will be paying taxes soon too when they go to work & may even end up supporting you! |
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By: unclefatso01
14/05/2008
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| Don't leave out us genuinely single singles we are paying thru the nose for nothing in return the whole system is biased and sucks big time. |
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By: szekley
14/05/2008
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Beachgolfer62,
I thoughly agree with you. I grew up in a farming community and watched as my friends parents quite happily routed the welfare system while my dad nearly lost his small farm due to high interest rates and no government help.
We are seeing a trend now of so called "baby bonus babies" born only so that the parents can receive the bonus. (Note: not all!!!! but there is precendence)
This country can not afford to bred generations of welfare dependents and hope to survive. |
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By: tropicagatha
14/05/2008
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True.I too find it hard to get work (& also am not unskilled),they the employers dont say it,but often its obvious- Definetely not happy employing a mother ,& most defintely not happy employing one whose child has a disbility and/or special needs.EVEN in areas with high demand for workers re nursing,esp in South Australia,very unflexible.I along with thousands are looking at relocating interstate.I had no problem in QLD when living there (HEllO QLD!!! see you soon!!)
I am retraining & looking in working for myself,like you I keep trying to do the right thing. |
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By: tropicagatha
14/05/2008
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Hi theelderguy
As a proud generation Xer I agree
We basically can deal with anything that is thrown at us,unlike the previous & subsequent generations.
We refuse to lie down & die & we believe that we are responsible for our lives,choices,& consequences & take it on the chin,We do not complain but get on with it we understand that one has to work for things & also that we have a collective responsability toward those less fortunate(for we too may end up in that boat,hopefully not for long!)and do not mind paying for those less fortunate.That is what happens from growing up & attaining adulthood under a Labor Hawke government,left socialist values have been imprinted on us.You are right Generation Y are "me me me""now now now" they have been mollycoddled from birth & given everything they wanted,& some not displaying a shred of moral responsability.
We are heading for a recession anyway,people keep building MacMansions & paying exorbitant sums for slums , this will push prices & inflation up & up.People keep spending money that they do not have.High Demand, little supply - equals Price Increases.
Good to see the rich not getting the baby bonus or part FTB part B,they dont need it.I would like the rich not receive first homebuyres grant too.I know of a family from overseas (not having owned a home here before)who had over $650,000 cash plus other savings & earning in excess of $100,00 per year,& the government was going to give them the $7000 first homebuyers grant. (This was a few years ago it may have changed) Yet I know of families who have lost their first home as a result of gambling addiction/alcoholism from one partner,or as a result of marriage break up,& have no money at all & yet receive no assistance in that area.That too should be reviewed. |
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By: yummimummi85
14/05/2008
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| Kids are not always planned for and as I know all too well, even the most careful planning can go awry. I dont believe in people sitting at home their whole lives just to stay with the kids while other people finance their existence, as you can always work from home or work part-time. But it's pretty much either kids or career these days, as my partner and I were working 5 jobs between us when I was pregnant (him 2, me 3) and we honestly couldnt fit in any more hours. I was forced by my doctor to quit work and now we are struggling to live., despite me continuing to work from home and still applying for kobs trying to get work. Now I am not unskilled. I have a few qualifications as well as a trade under my belt, and I cant get work! I am trying to the right thing and pay my own way through everything. But it doesn't work that way anymore and it is the ones who try to do the right thing that suffer for it. |
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By: tropicagatha
14/05/2008
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Hi
( this is ,Ernestmoonshadow replying on wife's email )
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Yes you do have a point there.Take my wife's ex,he remains wilfully unemployed & he is skilled,so as not to pay maintenance.
I work & my wife studies part time (she is trying to retrain) we try to show the children POSITIVE role models
However there is truth in what you say.Jimmy Barnes has kicked off an initiative in his old suburb recently in order to change despair,hopelessness,poor role modelling,& the consequences of extreme poverty.Often these kids need education & someone to show them that there are other ways to live,in other words positive role models.They know no different.Perhaps the government should encourage a return to school after the baby is born, (ie bonus ONLY if returning to school,study or apprenticeship)if we mean to make changes to the welfare state mentality ,it needs to start in school,to nurture a love of learning,to show by direct means that there is more to life etc.My wife came from such a suburb,yet she went to school in a different area,saw the possibilities,attained a degree & had her children in her late thirties after working for 20 years in some capacity or other.She still refuses to accept that welfare mentality & is retraining at 42 in order to gain employement that is suitable for her & her children.Not all remain in those areas,in our experience positive role modelling,& encouragemnet in attaining further education is the key. |
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By: theeldarguy
14/05/2008
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It is the duty of those that have to help those who have not.
That is a right statement, by my reckoning and I do my best to live by it when I can. I will never complain about paying taxes, I just like tax money to be used correctly. I have no problem with welfare, medicare and other social services and infrastructure. I'm sorry for using a cliche term here, however it is Generation X that are footing the bill for everything (hopefully so our children don't have to). Should a recession hit in the next few years, Gen X will be the most prepared for it (as we lived through it once) and it will be a massive wakeup call for the Gen y folk who live in a world of 'here and now'. I think the focus is on the topics Labor want right now: Us vs Them, Rich vs Poor. Keeps the focus of important issues like: Killing what's left of Australian Manufacturing and squeezing small to medium businesses (what do you think happens when a company that purchases laptops suddenly has to pay an additional 25%, or spends $1,000s on mobiles and related telephony per month now they must pay an increase also?). When I was single, I had no qualms about paying taxes for childcare (such as it was back then) and welfare, etc - that's life. In a more thoughtful prose: You reap what you sow. |
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By: beachgolfer62
14/05/2008
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Nobody denies the right of genuine needs by those in our community who require assistance from government agencies.
In fact these folk should get more not less than now. All paid for by taxes on the broader community.
Thats how a civilized society works
However our society is plagued by those who manipulate and rort the welfare system and subsequently jeopardize the outcomes for those genuine cases.
Unfortunately the "rorters" are legion and growing at an exponential rate.
I have first hand knowledge that in the area where I live the vast majority of babies being born are not to previously tax paying parents but to children of welfare parents who have never had a job as their parents have never had a job.
Children having children to various partners simply to follow the role model of parent and grandparent.
These people are the ones that have never believed in the rule of law and expect the taxpayer to fund their way of life for evermore.
Make these people responsible for themselves, make them contribute to the society they now bleed dry and there would be more than enough tax funds to satisfy every social, health, education and law and order need we will ever have.
Ignore them and suffer the consequences |
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By: tropicagatha
14/05/2008
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Hi Kidsnmum
Well said!! I can relate to all you say & my child's disability is very mild,yet I too am faced with high costs of remedial education,etc.And BTW (an aside to the childless ones)I worked 75% of a fulltime load on nursing shiftwork,(inc night shifts) until she was 6 years of age,& that also included child care,& still includes a specialist school model to meet her needs at extra cost of course!
Not to mention the loss of income in order to be there for my child when I am needed,& employers who are non understanding & non supportive (& I worked in a hospital too LOL!)
I agree,often unfortunately unless peole have been dealt hard knocks not of their choice,empathy seems to be lost somewhere.Keep up the good work & the best of luck to you & your boy. |
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