By: tont_au
9/05/2007
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All of this argument would be un-necessary if people had the moral conviction to stay in a relationship and work through the difficulties to keep the family together.
It seems far too easy to just throw up your hands and walk out like spoilt kids. |
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By: suspencefun101
9/05/2007
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| Can anyone tell me if normal household families recive anything from this budget, it said most households will recieve large checks, are we one of them or not :) |
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By: give_me_chocy
9/05/2007
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| I'm a single parent who is looking for work. I'm raising a teenager who has nothing to do with her father. His choice not hers & he only pays $12 per fortnight in child support. How is this fair??? He walked out when she was 15 months old & has only seen her 4 times in 12 yrs. He gets paid cash in hand for computer work, but is claiming the dole. I'd love to work but cant find a job in country NSW. The Budget did nothing for me. |
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By: malieta_stewart
9/05/2007
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The lady that introduced child support in america was a very clever lady to take her husband to court to pay for food to put on the table and clothing (very very smart women) that women has made a wooping millions,an millions of dollars.
The problem is the husband had to suffer an the wife made millions and remarried but the husband had to still pay because of jelousy an then turned into greed. Not every one is like this but it gives you an out look of what happen then,today it is no different only we can make changes to make life easy or hard. |
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By: sanerstii
8/05/2007
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".. My Husband supports us all and our son we have together .."
Pretty much sums it up for me right there.
My husband has a son from his first relationship, I have a daughter and we have 2 kids together.
His son comes over dressed in brand new billabong clothing, wearing nike shoes where our kids are dressed in mainly second hand clothing and $20 joggers.
The ex-wife and her new partner own 4 cars - PT Cruiser, 2 jags and a hot-rod, we own a bombed out van that cost us $2500
And she cracks the darks if we miss one child support payment.
Child support says that the new partners income is not taken into account where working out an agreement because the new partner is not responsible for the child. (unless of course you are the payer and your new partners income/assets are taken into account when working out a debt repayment scheme :S)
Maybe not but lets look at it this way. You move in with someone & immediately your housing payments are split in half, your bills are reduced, it costs very little extra to feed one more person so the food bills aren't that much higher. With this taken into consideration, doesn't this mean that you should have more money left over to spend on your child than if you were living on your own raising that child? Yet the amount of money that the payer is required to pay stays the same.
traceyw..It might interest you to know that I have an 11 yr old that I have never received a cent of child support for so my husband is responsible for her upkeep, not her bio-father, but in the CSA's eyes she doesn't come into the picture where working out our rate of child support. But the amount of family payment I am entitled to for her is directly related to my husbands income to make the system fair shouldn't her family payment be based on her bio-fathers income not my husbands?
The system is screwed up in all directions and needs to be s c r a p p e d and started again.
Just on a side note since when is sc r a p p e ... |
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By: traceyw_005
8/05/2007
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Wow your all bagging out the mothers ain't ya .. That is a Joke i have a 11 year old son and i have Never recived Child Support .. He works for cash in hand . My son hasn't seen his Dad in Over 3 Years and He chose to having nothing to do with him last year .. My Husband supports us all and our son we have together .. Lay off the Mums and some dads are in the same spot as me .. Don't forget it is the Goverment who make you apply for Child support Not the parents ..as for Non Paying Parent that is just not right But i know both my sons don't go with out and and my Hubbie works .. so we don't claim the dole and sit on our ass ! People are so jugemental it is just so typical!
yeah bag me out .. i don't care |
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By: dudijee
8/05/2007
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| whinge whinge all you females are the same !!!!!!! |
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By: kyliegalumalemana
8/05/2007
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| How do you work out that you pay $9k child support, when using the standard calculation Income minuse $13k x 18% (1 child) thats $6600 a year. |
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By: cherylleast
8/05/2007
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Well as of 2008, the way child support is calculated will change. Both parents incomes will taken into account and mothers will be just as liable as the fathers for supporting the children.
If father is earning $50k and mother earning $50k you will each be liable to contribute.
And for mothers who earn more than the fathers, you may be liable to pay the father child support even if he does not have major access.
And for those people that are thinking I will just take a lower paying job..... you may still be assesed on your ability to earn more. Meaning if you are in an industry were the general rate would be $40k and you decide to go for a lower paying position thay may base your child support on the ability to earn more. They may have somethings right but they still have a long way to go.
I am just peeved that I may have to pay my ex husband child support for children that he refuses to see........ that stinks!! |
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By: shell_xplan
8/05/2007
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Hi
As we speak here my fiance is out working a 2nd job that his ex partner is intitled to bloody 32% of. Its friggn rediculous she sits on her butt puttn her hand out and when it comes to sharing the kids she brings it down to money. We have them to often - Oh gee she loses some money. Never think of the kids but her hip pocket - the money my partner has to pay out. I believe in fathers having to provide for thier kids but when is it going to be reviewed as single cases just not on a whole broad area when each case is different. When will it ever end.....I know there are cases of fathers doing the wrong thing but why should the ones doing thier bit wanting to get ahead have to suffer. We have to have everything at our house for the kids just as they have at the mothers. Far to many woman are out there to just sit and put thier hand out. My partner is at work trying to earn some money so we can live the life his ex seems to be living with our money that is clearly not being spent on the kids. I think its totally wrong that the ex partners be intitled to the ex husbands income from a 2nd job. I have probably opened a can of worms by this message but really until you lived in our position you have NO IDEA!!!!!!!!! |
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By: loveforever_07
8/05/2007
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| I totally agree with you on this. I have seperated from my husband and am in another relationship and i am totally for my daughter to see her father when ever he wants. But i have the other hand where my new partner's ex wife takes the child support and we had to fight in court to see him and we are still fighting. But my brother inlaw has 2 children that he pays child support for and has not seen his children in 12 years as she keeps moving house so he can't find them. I think it should be if you pay you get the same rights as the person that the child lives with and if you refuse to give the mother or father this right then you shouldn't have to pay. Or hold it in an account for the children when they are old enough to do with what they need. |
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By: z.mackonis
8/05/2007
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| Consider this. I earn $50k. I Pay $12k tax, $9k child support for my preschool son. I pay $15k rent. I have $14k to eat, pay utilities, car and support my wife (who does not work) and our one child. That is poverty. I have a great idea. I'll work part time....3 days a week. I will pay very little child support. And I'll get some cash. I'll end up with $20k extra in my pocket and I am every happy. This is the market economy and you do what is good for you. |
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By: kyliegalumalemana
8/05/2007
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I can't believe the stupid comments about child support. I have 3 children and I get $95 a week child support, i work full time and my day car costs twice as much as this despite being on a high Child care benefit percentage.
True there are some people who rort the system but comments that a women would have a child get child support and then kick the partner out are a joke. |
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By: malieta_stewart
8/05/2007
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| I totally agree with you on that topic, i know a few people that are ripping the system off. Some are claiming child support an living with another man and paying there house off with the children child support money, also some are drinking an gambleing the money. I reakon that there should be some sort of truste fund set up for the kids and the money put into that so the kids got some thing to fall back on when they get older. Poor kids got to miss out because of these greedy mothers an step fathers. |
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By: rydemalhotra
6/05/2007
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| Child support is not enough for raising kids, if I work more the more I have to pay tax, and if I work less, less money we have to spend for kids. The system make poor more poorer and richer more richer at the time now tax system. The fedral budget must give more money for buy the new 1st home for young peoples. |
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By: becky22711
4/05/2007
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| Maybe the woman should not have kids and kick the partner out. I know many women who do this just to get the money and then ship in a new bloke. |
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By: a_neet
4/05/2007
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| How is it that you expect the new partner to provide financial support to your kids?... You had them, you pay for them.. it's your duty, not the governments and not anyone else! |
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By: gary_westoz
1/05/2007
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| Everyone knows that the whole system is a rip off. I dutifly pay my child support as I do know that it goes towards my daughters expenses. Having said that, what really ticks me off is that my ex's new partner earns twice as much as me and none of this is taken into account as being an income for her. The way I see it is that this should be taken into account as he sure as hell gets to spend more time with her than I do! I spoke to CSA last week and they cannot indicate as to whether the new legislation will take effect in the upcoming new financial year or the next. Even that doesn't go far enough. The whole thing is finacially and ethically wrong. Before the last election, the govt promised to make sweeping changes, but didn't have the balls to go the whole way. Why? because they didn,t want to upset too many woman voters. Thing is too, that if all Dads did the right thing then the CSA would not even be necessary. As per usual, its the few that stuff it up for the majority. |
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By: legsio
1/05/2007
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| bad ttile for discussion....you should know child support is a rip-off system that make fathers pay WAY too much in most cases... more than the dole but for children!! Does it cost more than the dole allowance to raise a 10y.o?? |
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By: pol_pak
23/04/2007
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| I just need a housekeeper ;-) |
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By: terry_messervy
23/04/2007
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| The Government need to introduce paid maternity leave for 12 months. The birth rate is declining because people cannot afford to have children. The Govt. should also consider supporting home childcare (nannies), additionally make sure there are enough childcare placements in all suberbs. |
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